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   Posted 10/10/2008 8:04 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"I love you too, Brother Turtle!" says Brother Scissortail.
 
(sounds like a B kung-fu movie.  rotfl )
 
cheers 
We good, bro.


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   Posted 10/10/2008 9:58 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Palin: Here Comes The Report...
 
 
 
From the last one...
 
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, touted by GOP presidential candidate John McCain as his expert on energy, seemed to have problems Thursday explaining whether the government bans oil exports -- especially from her state's North Slope fields.
 
A questioner at a town hall-style meeting in Wisconsin said he had heard that at least 75 percent of the oil drilled in Alaska was being sold to China and said, if true, he would like to know why.
"No. It's not 75 percent of our oil being exported," Palin said, suggesting some of Alaska's oil, in fact, may be going abroad but not that much.
 
"In fact," she added, "Congress is pretty strict on, um, export bans of oil and gas especially."
 
No Alaska oil has been exported since 2004, and little if any since 2000, according to the Energy Information Administration and the Congressional Research Service.
 
And Congress has never imposed outright bans on oil exports. Congress prohibited exports of Alaska oil in 1973 when the Alaska oil pipeline was built. But that ban was lifted in 1996 when there were large volumes of Alaska oil coming down from the North Slope and U.S. demand was soft.
The Alaska ban has never been reinstated.
 
"It's been discussed recently as part of talk about drilling on the Outer Continental Shelf," said Bill Wicker, a spokesman for the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. But he said there's been no active legislation that would reinstate the Alaska ban or any thought on Capitol Hill of banning other U.S. oil or natural gas exports.
 
Natural gas exports must be approved by the Energy Department under a 1938 law, although such authorization for gas shipments to Mexico, Canada and Japan have been granted for many years. The Energy Department recently indicated it is ready to renew authorization for shipping Alaska liquefied natural gas, or LNG, to Japan.
 
There are no such restrictions when it comes to oil.
 
Between 1996 and 2004, about 95 million barrels of North Slope oil, roughly 2.7 percent of Alaska's production, was exported to South Korea, Japan, China and Taiwan, according to the Energy Information Administration.
 
There have been little or no oil exports since 2000, according to the Congressional Research Service. The EIA said there have been no Alaska oil exports since 2004.
 
The United States exports a relatively small amount of oil and petroleum production as Palin acknowledged as part of her answer, which largely focused on the need for more domestic drilling.
 
"It's not a huge portion of any domestic supply being exported," Palin said toward the end of her response, and seemed to contradict her earlier view that Congress bans exports.
 
Last year, the United States exported 523 million barrels of petroleum products, of which only a small amount was crude oil. That year it imported more than 4.7 billion barrels of oil and oil products.
 
The United States exported 822 billion cubic feet of natural gas, almost all by pipeline to Canada and Mexico, and a small amount of liquefied natural gas, or LNG, to Japan and Mexico in 2007, according to the EIA.
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Uh...she's the Governor of this state...right?  nono


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   Posted 10/10/2008 12:14 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Untold Chapter Of Troopergate
Governor's Replacement For Top Cop Quit Within Two Weeks Amid Scandal
 

 

 
 
Things just keep looking worse and worse.  She hasn't been running things well in her OWN state!
 
McCain's choice of her was demonstrative of SOUND, GOOD JUDGEMENT??
 
Shhhhhyeah, right! reading


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   Posted 10/10/2008 1:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
2008 America, y'all!
 


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   Posted 10/10/2008 1:45 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkcMw2JN_XQ

Are sure this particular case isn't a setup? It's the sort of tactics I'd expect from some.

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   Posted 10/10/2008 1:52 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Check it, Corey. Let's go ahead and say that this is a total "setup", ok? Let's go all the way there. Let's assume that right now, ok?

Now...does it represent anything about this election season or the involvement of racial tension in this election? Anything at all?  The very FACT that it's being talked about.
 
And I'm assuming you've read the article linked to it...and the articles above.


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   Posted 10/10/2008 1:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This is you doing your "P" thing, right? ;-)


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   Posted 10/10/2008 2:03 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Heh. Maybe so. Anyway, I'm agreeing with everything you're saying about racial tension, and how this can be exploited to further evil.

No, I hadn't noticed that image was a link. I'll read that now.


 

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   Posted 10/10/2008 7:37 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Lord, bless her.

It's a WRAP!

Troopergate Report: Palin Abused Power
Unanimous but Contentious Vote to Release the Report to the Public
By JUSTIN ROOD

FLASHBACK...

Fired Official: Governor Sarah Palin Did Not Tell the Truth to ABC
Walt Monegan Says He Was Called to Gov.'s Office Over a "Private Family Matter"
By RHONDA SCHWARTZ and JUSTIN ROOD
September 15, 2008


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   Posted 10/10/2008 7:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Branchflower: Palin abused power
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- Investigator Stephen Branchflower has concluded that Gov. Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired Public Saftey Commissioner Walt Monegan.

"I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch ethics act," Branchflower said in the 263-page report to the Legislative Council released Friday afternoon.

"Alaska statute 39.52.110(a) provides 'the legislature reaffirms that each public officer holds office as a public trust and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust,'" Branchflower continued.


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   Posted 10/10/2008 7:59 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Panel: Palin abused power, broke no laws in trooper case
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) -- Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin abused her power as Alaska's governor in the firing of her former public safety commissioner, but violated no laws, a report for the state Legislature concluded Friday.

Wow...the audacity...

Palin about Obama...

"If this is true ... it is a stunning example of putting ambition above country," Palin said. "To put political ambitions in front of doing what's right for our troops is breathtaking, and it is unacceptable."

Damn...

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   Posted 10/11/2008 1:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
When an ethics committee concludes that you BOTH abused your power AND that your abuse broke no law/statute (there are specific statutes on the books in Alaska regarding abuse of executive power), I conclude that the committee understands little about either ethics or the law. It's meaningless to conclude that an executive "abused" his/her power and also conclude that he/she acted lawfully and within their executive rights.

The report carries no weight and has no integrity.

T

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   Posted 10/11/2008 2:02 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
How about this, Tom?

Does McCain's choice of Sarah Palin constitute "good, sound judgement"? Was she VETTED well?

Does this REFLECT on McCain in any way?

You are SOMETHING ELSE, man...


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"(Palin) knowingly, as the term is defined in the above cited statutes, permitted Todd Palin to use the Governor's office and the resources of the Governor's office, including state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper (Mike) Wooten fired," the report stated.

"Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda ... She had the authority and power to require Mr. Palin to cease contacting subordinates, but she failed to act," the findings continued.


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   Posted 10/11/2008 2:08 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The actual Branchflower Report (PDF)

Alaska State Ethics Statutes (PDF)


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   Posted 10/11/2008 2:11 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Alaska's Legislative Council.

7 Republicans
4 Democrats


And this was started BEFORE she was ever tapped for VP.  Do you know the history of this case, Tom??

The Partisan argument is bull#$*& and everyone knows it...particularly the Council themselves.

lol 


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"The strong and demonstrated tendency to falsify even easily researchable facts for their own political ambition and gain...without taking responsibility (refusing to "own up" ) to the falsification when the falsification has been recognized by others."
 
Palin's got this on lock.


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   Posted 10/11/2008 2:32 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Palin ethics lapse cited
Alaska investigators say it was OK to fire a state commissioner, but her efforts against a trooper went too far.
LA Times

Do you know, Tom, that Palin ON THE STUMP was talking about how Obama CANNOT be trusted and is not trustworthy because of his hiding the truth?

HYPOCRISY, dawg!


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Palin's Reckless Abuse of Power -- A Lawyer's View

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What the Troopergate Report Really Says
Time Magazine


Some from the article...

Did Governor Sarah Palin abuse the power of her office in trying to get her former brother-in-law, State Trooper Mike Wooten, fired? Yes.

Was the refusal to fire Mike Wooten the reason Palin fired Commissioner of Public Safety Walt Monegan? Not exclusively, and it was within her rights as the states' chief executive to fire him for just about any reason, even without cause.

Those answers were expected, given that most of the best pieces of evidence have been part of the public record for months. The result is not a mortal wound to Palin, nor does it put her at much risk of being forced to leave the ticket her presence succeeded in energizing.

But the Branchflower report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is
the Palin administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so.
 
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Neither John McCain nor Sarah Palin better say ANYTHING ELSE about "integrity", "truth-telling", and "transparency."  Saying that Barack can't be trusted...but THEY can.

They need to shut all that #$*& up.


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"Abuse of power"

Bush?

Cheney?

What change?
 
rotfl


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Oh, there you are.
 
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   Posted 10/11/2008 3:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
D: You are SOMETHING ELSE, man...

T: I try to be!

D: Does McCain's choice of Sarah Palin constitute "good, sound judgement"? Was she VETTED well?

T: It seems she was not vetted well, if at all. And it does reflect upon McCain's judgment.

What do say you of Obama's choice of Biden (and Biden's choice to accept the VP pick) given Biden's unambiguous declaration during the primaries that Obama was not prepared to be President of the United States? Does it show good judgment on Obama's part to pick a running mate who doesn't think he's even qualified to be President? That's sound judgment? And what's it tell us about Biden's integrity that he'd accept being VP for a man he doesn't believe is qualified to be President? Oh, wait, Biden's changed his mind. Oh well. I guess people do that sort of thing. Obama wasn't qualified to be President a few months ago but now he's the best thing since sliced bread.

Right.

Dude, when it comes to being disingenuous, Obama and Biden are right up there with the worst.

Both candidates suck, both are a mixture of truth/falsehood, both will fail to do what they promise and do what the promise not to do.

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For the record. I don't think the ethics report was partisan. Didn't say it was. And I'm not saying she DIDN'T abuse executive power. I'm saying there's something wrong with an ETHICS committee that asserts she BOTH "abused her power" AND "acted within the law" so that the law can't touch her. You can't say that. Yes, she can fire him if she wants to. Fine. BUT she can't abuse her power while doing so (motivation, etc.). That is, you can't abuse your power to do what the law otherwise allows you to do. If it's established that a genuine abuse of power is even PART of the firing (her motivation), then she clearly HAS broken the statute and acted criminally. You can't say she "abused power" and then NOT pursue the matter in court. I know our courts are f**d up and this wouldn't fly, but that's my take on it. I'm not offering an opinion on Palin. I'm offering an opinion on the Committee's failure to appreciate both ethics and the law. The law in this case REGARDS ethics. You can't fail her in the latter (which the Committee did) and not the former (they said she broke no statute--on the contrary! If you KNOW she "abused her power" then she HAS broken the statute). But that's what the Committee did.

It's ALL bullcrap, D, not just the half you're complaining about.

T

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Tom:
It seems she was not vetted well, if at all. And it does reflect upon McCain's judgment.

Ok. Given this thread's title, that's pertinent. Thanks.

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Tom:
For the record. I don't think the ethics report was partisan. Didn't say so. And I'm not saying she DIDN'T abuse executive power. I'm saying there's something wrong with an ETHICS committee that asserts she BOTH "abused her power" but yet "acted within the law." You can't say that. Yes, she can fire him if she wants to. Fine. BUT she can't abuse her power while doing so (motivation, etc.). If it's established that an abuse of power is even PART of the firing, then she clearly HAS broken the statute and acted criminally. You can't say she "abused power" and then NOT pursue the matter in court. I'm not offering an opinion on Palin. I'm offering an opinion on the Committee's failure to appreciate both ethics and the law. The law in this case REGARDS ethics. You can't fail her in the latter and not the former. But that's what the Committee did.

This what some people are indeed saying. Personally, I think that they are euphemizing a bit. The FACTS ARE that she HAS broken the statute. You can see it for yourself. So she HAS acted against the law. PERIOD. People just don't want to say that.


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