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     |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 10/25/2008 9:53 AM (GMT -6) |   | A prayer for myself...
Lord Jesus,
As You will, speak to me today specifically about America's "white supremacy" issue. Lead me in Your working in that. Lead me to whatever You want me to do or see such that I move further into Your Will on this issue. As You speak to me and reveal Your Working to me, I commit to continue following Your leading. I trust that You will speak to me. And I pray, by Your Power, the ears to hear Your Voice clearly. And I praise You for Your Working.
Amen.
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  |  Tom Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 10353 | Posted 10/25/2008 10:32 AM (GMT -6) |   | I don't know that I would call clinic bombers "terrorists" either. Depends on how you define the word. In a very general sense, sure, anybody who does something that causes terror in another is a teRORist. Come on. But we're talking about something far more specific. In my understanding, the more appropriate use of the term describes people who seek through violent means and terror to destabilize whole societies for political gain and upheaval. In that sense, no, people who bomb abortion clinics aren't 'terrorists'. Palin's right.
What she did NOT say was that bombing clinics is a good thing that we should all support and defend. THAT'S the point.
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     |  Corey Five with a Four-wing

Date Joined Feb 2003 Total Posts : 1893 | Posted 10/26/2008 7:51 AM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
 |  Tom Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 10353 | Posted 10/26/2008 8:11 AM (GMT -6) |   | We're between the devil and the deep blue sea!
Ha!
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 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 10/26/2008 9:57 AM (GMT -6) |   | 1) Nastiness is nastiness, wherever it is. And that's just nasty. This stuff shouldn't be happening anywhere. Not with Palin...or McCain...or Biden...or Obama. This thing is getting really ugly and sordid.
2) The FIRST SET of "Bros over Hoes" shirt (openly misogynistic) that I had seen was during the Clinton/Obama primaries...and Obama had to say something about that then. I've hated the misogyny and sexism to begin with...including that shown by Palin's supporters at the RNC. (We vote for the Hot Chick!, etc.) As I recall, I mentioned this like way early on at the beginning of this thread. I thought that it sucked that not NEARLY as much of the "sexism" stuff was brought against the Republicans treatment of Hilllary, either. But....
3) Kristol Rips McCain Camp, RNC for Handling of Palin Huffington Post Oct. 26th, 2008
Bill Kristol, who has been, perhaps, the biggest Sarah Palin partisan of the pundit class, leveled some harsh criticisms at the McCain campaign Sunday for what he deemed to be a mismanagement of the vice presidential rollout, petty infighting, and leaving the Alaska Governor out on a limb after it was revealed the RNC had paid $150,000 in clothing for her.
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 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 10/31/2008 3:27 PM (GMT -6) |   | | Sarah Palin speaks on the First Amendment
Glenn Greenwald
Somehow, in Sarah Palin's brain, it's a threat to the First Amendment when newspapers criticize her negative attacks on Barack Obama. This is actually so dumb that it hurts:
In a conservative radio interview that aired in Washington, D.C. Friday morning, Republican vice presidential nominee Gov. Sarah Palin said she fears her First Amendment rights may be threatened by "attacks" from reporters who suggest she is engaging in a negative campaign against Barack Obama.
Palin told WMAL-AM that her criticism of Obama's associations, like those with 1960s radical Bill Ayers and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, should not be considered negative attacks. Rather, for reporters or columnists to suggest that it is going negative may constitute an attack that threatens a candidate's free speech rights under the Constitution, Palin said.
"If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations," Palin told host Chris Plante, "then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."
Maureen Dowd recently made an equally stupid comment when she complained that her First Amendment rights were being violated by the McCain campaign's refusal to allow her on their campaign plane.
The First Amendment is actually not that complicated. It can be read from start to finish in about 10 seconds. It bars the Government from abridging free speech rights. It doesn't have anything to do with whether you're free to say things without being criticized, or whether you can comment on blogs without being edited, or whether people can bar you from their private planes because they don't like what you've said.
If anything, Palin has this exactly backwards, since one thing that the First Amendment does actually guarantee is a free press. Thus, when the press criticizes a political candidate and a Governor such as Palin, that is a classic example of First Amendment rights being exercised, not abridged.
This isn't only about profound ignorance regarding our basic liberties, though it is obviously that. Palin here is also giving voice to the standard right-wing grievance instinct: that it's inherently unfair when they're criticized. And now, apparently, it's even unconstitutional.
According to Palin, what the Founders intended with the First Amendment was that political candidates for the most powerful offices in the country and Governors of states would be free to say whatever they want without being criticized in the newspapers. In the Palin worldview, the First Amendment was meant to ensure that powerful political officials such as herself would not be "attacked" in the papers. Is it even possible to imagine more breathaking ignorance from someone holding high office and running for even higher office?
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 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 11/1/2008 5:42 AM (GMT -6) |   | I think it was an unbeliever who wrote this. It's definitely NOT like the things spoken about don't apply in some way to Obama and Biden to be sure. Repentence, Christianly speaking, is needed all the way around. I do think that, for someone who's OPENLY and POINTEDLY campaigning to the conservative evangelical Christian...by going on shows like Dr. Dobson's and the like...I do think this is especially telling and appropriate...
A Letter to Sarah Palin from God
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 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 11/1/2008 5:53 AM (GMT -6) |   | Wow. This dude got SCHOOLED...
Watch the video
Michael Goldfarb McCain Campaign NATIONAL SPOKESMAN
WTF?
Insanely stupid!
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 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 11/2/2008 7:21 AM (GMT -6) |   | For those who think I trip on this page...particularly on the racial overtones seen in this election year...
Nina Simone Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3FXFnoTzE
The following song is a homemade update-remix...pretty good. (Hardcore lyrics. Listener beware! )
Tupac Shakur/Lil Wayne Misunderstood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH1MWpuMvpE
"My God is my judge... No gown, no gavel..."
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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 |  Tom Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 10353 | Posted 11/2/2008 7:47 AM (GMT -6) |   | Palin: "If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations, then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."
Tom: What a dumkoph. I can't imagine what the future of free speech would be if it were in Palin's power to decide. I'm still conflicted over voting (still NOT voting), but part of me is VERY happy this lady will not be in the White House.
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 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 11/2/2008 8:02 AM (GMT -6) |   | Oh, that's not all, dawg. Haven't you heard?
Palin takes prank call from fake French president By CHARMAINE NORONHA
TORONTO (AP) — Sarah Palin unwittingly took a prank call Saturday from a Canadian comedian posing as French President Nicolas Sarkozy and telling her she would make a good president someday.
"Maybe in eight years," replies a laughing Palin.
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Two other pages on the same thing...
AFP
TPM (check out the comments...wow! AUDIO OF THE CONVERSATION HERE TOO! )
You've got to listen to the call to believe it. (YouTube)
What does it say about our country that someone like this could get THIS CLOSE to the Vice-Presidency (and possibly Presidency)? Can you imagine what OTHER COUNTRIES are thinking??? Oops. Well, I guess I can...
From a poster on TPM:
I think one of the biggest parts of the joke is that her colossal ego led her to actually believe that the President of France would just casually call her.
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 11/2/2008 8:49 AM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 11/2/2008 8:56 AM (GMT -6) |   | Here's the sad part:
Nicolas Sarkozy DOESN'T SPEAK fluent English!
He just STARTED taking English lessons March of THIS YEAR.
If Palin even just knew OF HIM well...she wouldn't have fallen for this. Not with the way the imposter was talking...
and...
At 5:49 of the video...you can hear it...
After she learns the radio station is from "Montreal" (CANADA, her NEIGHBORING COUNTRY as an Alaskan) from the pranksters...she can be heard in the background saying...
"...it's this radio station from France."WTF??? "Country First"?
McCain is goin' out like a sucka! Damn.
And 42% of voters WANT THIS? THIS???
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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 |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 11/2/2008 9:13 AM (GMT -6) |   | Tom,
You've been through more elections than me. Have you EVER seen anything like this in an American election in your history of voting?
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