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Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 2763 | Posted 9/27/2008 10:17 AM (GMT -6) |   |
Paying Taxes to Caesar 15Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. 16They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. "Teacher," they said, "we know you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are. 17Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not?" 18But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? 19Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, 20and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" 21"Caesar's," they replied. Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." 22When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.
Here’s some thoughts on this. This is a very short and compact reply that Jesus is giving to the Pharisees who are trying to trap him into saying something that will violate EITHER his obligation to God OR to Caesar. It is not meant to elaborate on any sort of political theory as some assume. What Jesus seems to be doing, as he does throughout his ministry is to confound his opponents by way of showing them their false dilemma by way of entangling them in it.
First, he points out that THEY are hypocrites. And why are they the hypocrites and not Jesus? Well, in the next verse, Jesus asks them to show him a coin with Caesar’s image on it. Seeing as the coin has Caesar’s image on it, this implies that it rightfully belongs to him. Thus, they are to pay taxes (give the money back to Caesar) who it rightfully belongs to.
Second, the whole idea here is that they should know WHAT belongs to God. “Hey, you see this coin? It belongs to Caesar as it has his image on it, right? But what “coin” properly belongs to God? What “coin” bears God’s image? It is you! You bear God’s image and you properly belong to God. You owe God EVERYTHING! INCLUDING all that you give to Caesar (Caesar is an image bearer as well). Give God YOURSELVES--the coin that bears the image of God--the whole of your life!”
Well, that did it. Jesus didn’t challenge the authority of Caesar so the Herodians couldn’t get him on that. And the Pharisees, well, they were not going to let Jesus lead them down a pathway about serving God with all one’s heart, soul and strength.
So giving to Caesar what belongs to him is much the same as giving to parents or teachers or any other authority what belongs to them. Authorities are ALWAYS under God. Even Caesar’s authority is relatively small in the context of God’s Kingdom. And so, the gravity of Jesus command is that all authority is accountable to God because God’s authority is tops.
Brandon
It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.
To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 9/27/2008 10:46 AM (GMT -6) |   | Cool beans, Brandon.
In my opinion, this can be an example of the bi-polar assymetrical relationality between allegiance to human authorities and supreme allegiance to God's Authority. It can be possible to participate in human structures of authority WHILE being "single-eyed" with one's devotion to God. To be sure, when human authorities operate more according to God's way of doing things, then there's less REASON for civil disobedience...and less struggle for the person of spiritual conscience. In short, when godly (wise, kind, integrous, etc) leaders are in power, it's EASIER for the person of faith in God to bloom in faithfulness to God.
Example: Parents...as exemplified by Mary and Joseph, parents of Jesus.
Jesus submitted to his parents (good) authority over him, but this was ALWAYS under his adherence to his Father's Authority. (Hence, the "Shouldn't I be in my Father's House" type thinking) But the good authority that they exerted over Jesus MADE IT EASIER to show due diligence to both authorities in his pursuit of the ONE Authority: Gods! (Honor your father and mother) There was an ASSYMETRICAL "marginal control" of the Father's Authority to Mary and Joseph's parental authority...but they reciprocally involved each other, allowing Jesus to do one IN AND THROUGH doing the other. When parents exert sinful parenting however (which we all do), we put roadblocks in the way. (Fathers, don't provoke your children to wrath)
"When parents (societies?) pass off their sins as values to their children (adherents of socialization), they pass on death and destruction to them."
Does this make sense?
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
"I love, therefore I am in I Am." Post Edited (One Love) : 9/27/2008 11:12:45 AM (GMT-5) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 9/27/2008 12:59 PM (GMT -6) |   | Example of the above:
When hip hop (which started out as a much more artistic, prophetic, social commentary and uplift kind of thing) started making money, getting into the industry and hype...and getting co-opted into the consumeristic, overindulgent, narcissistic ways of our American society...
then you have...
"Bling, Bling" Cash Money Brothers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr2LllavWgQ&feature=related
Do y'all know that "bling" and "bling,bling" is now in the COMMON AMERICAN SLANG because it was so socially impactive?
Just a whirlwird we are reaping from what was sown WAAAAY earlier. (Wall Street?)
"When parents (societies) pass off their sins as values to their children (adherents of socialization), they pass on death and destruction to them."
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
"I love, therefore I am in I Am." Post Edited (One Love) : 9/27/2008 1:03:03 PM (GMT-5) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 2763 | Posted 9/27/2008 11:46 PM (GMT -6) |   | |
D: In my opinion, this can be an example of the bi-polar assymetrical relationality between allegiance to human authorities and supreme allegiance to God's Authority. It can be possible to participate in human structures of authority WHILE being "single-eyed" with one's devotion to God. To be sure, when human authorities operate more according to God's way of doing things, then there's less REASON for civil disobedience...and less struggle for the person of spiritual conscience. In short, when godly (wise, kind, integrous, etc) leaders are in power, it's EASIER for the person of faith in God to bloom in faithfulness to God.
Brandon: Right. We usually have particular institutions in mind when we speak of "human structures of authority" ie. government. However, governments are not the only authorities. There are parents, entrepreneurs, scientists, artists, doctors, teachers, etc. Not only should they seek God in true humility (this is why I somewhat disagreed with Jeff. Not ALL politicians are self-seeking. Simply because most North Americans have a negative view of politicians, can we not find ANY EXAMPLES of judges, govenors, public administrators, who take up the cause of the stranger or break the fangs of the wicked in order to protect the innocent??? Job 29: 11-17) but to say that one could not have a "single-eye" toward God in the context of government one might as well say the same thing for ALL authority. And THAT seems to stretch things a bit.
Brandon
It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.
To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa
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