Mindfulness

Watchfulness (Nepsis)

Fanaa

Post Edited (One Love) : 10/21/2008 11:23:22 AM (GMT-5)

Anyone else can comment too.

For the record, Corey, I would agree that the MBTI was slightly more helpful for locating specific personality traits for me, too. 

Post Edited (One Love) : 10/21/2008 2:56:27 PM (GMT-5)

"Secondly, it follows from this that Christ as Creator-Logos is to be envisaged, not as on the outside, but as on the inside of everything. It is a frequent fault of religious writers that they speak of the created universe as if it were an artifact of a Maker Who has, so to speak, produced it from without. God the Creator becomes the celestial Clock-maker Who sets the cosmic process in motion, winding up the clock, but then leaving it to continue ticking on its own. This will not do. It is important to avoid such images as the divine architect, builder or engineer, and to speak rather in terms of indwelling (without thereby excluding the dimension of divine transcendence). Creation is not something upon which God acts from the outside, but something through which he expresses Himself from within. Transcendent, He is also immanent; above and beyond creation, He is also its true inwardness, its 'within.' "

Bishop Kallistos of Diokleia

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Now about the gifts of the Spirit, brothers and sisters, I do not want you to be uninformed. You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols. Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus be cursed," and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.

Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.

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Does this make sense, Selah?

Post Edited (One Love) : 10/21/2008 5:56:51 PM (GMT-5)

Put this together WITH me being an "Extraverted Feeler"...whoooooo! 

Post Edited (One Love) : 10/21/2008 4:15:13 PM (GMT-5)

You know what?  I'd almost bet a hundred bucks that Tom's a Five, too.

Post Edited (One Love) : 10/21/2008 5:12:54 PM (GMT-5)

I spent a few hours tonight going back over my books on the enneagram. Honestly, at least from this reading, I can't find what I recall objecting to earlier. So I'll retract that, at least for now.

Interesting to me was their descriptions of subtypes within types: I think I'm a Five with a Four-wing, "The Iconoclast". The main emphasis here is on recognizing the limits of rational inquiry, and then developing a synthesis of knowledge and intuition. There's much more of an intuitive and aesthetic emphasis, an appreciation of the correlation of beauty and truth. Truth is much broader than what can be rationally processed. One of the other characteristics is that this subtype tends to be (too?) independant and individualistic. Anyway, I'd betcha a dollar SK was this subtype too.

This subtype has been somewhat overlooked in many descriptions of Fives because they do not fit the stereotype of the academic/scientific Five (the Five with a Six-wing). [Tom?] This subtype is more synthetic in its thinking, pulling things together and seeking out new ways of looking at things. Also, Fives with a Four-wing tend to utilize their imaginations more than the analytic, sytemic parts of the mind which are more the domain of the other subtype. [...] This subtype is particularly aware of -- and on the lookout for -- the beauty in a mathematical formula, for example. For this subtype, beauty is one of the indications of truth, because the order which beauty represents is a confirmation of the objective rightness of an idea. One of the foremost strengths of healthy Fives with a Four-wing lies precisely in their intuition, since intuition helps them uncover areas of knowledge where their conscious thoughts have not yet ventured.

Post Edited (Corey) : 10/22/2008 5:59:51 AM (GMT-5)

The traits of the Six and those of the Five are in some degree of conflict with each other. The general orientation of Sixes is toward affiliation with others, while the orientation of Fives is toward detachment from people so they can avoid being influenced by anyone. Sixes and Fives are both looking for safety, but Sixes look to alliances with others and commitment to systems of thought for security, while Fives tend to retreat from others and tinker with, or even dismantle, established systems of thought [hence the Mephistopheles moniker!]. Both tendencies exists the the Six with a Five-wing, which sees itself as fighting for the "little person," while at the same time being drawn to systems, alliances, and beliefs which often contain strong authoritarian elements. Sixes with a Five-wing can seem like Ones because they are serious, self-controlled, and committed to specific moral, ethical, and political beliefs. Like Eights, the can also be rather outspoken and passionate in the expression of their beliefs, with less concern about being liked than the Six with a Seven-wing.

 

Healthy people of this subtype combine the Six's capacity for organization and personal engagement with the Five's perceptiveness and curiosity. They may have a strong intellectual streak, depending on how much the Five-wing is in their overall personality. Healthy Sixes with a Five-wing often develop technical expertise and are valued as practical problem solvers; they are good communicators, educators, and pundits. They are also attracted to professions such as medicine, law, and engineering; they desire to master a system of knowledge but within a field where the rules and parameters are established and known. They often get involved with political causes and community service. There is a strong identification with the underdog, and Sixes with a Five-wing may become the spokespeople or champions for groups or individuals they see as disadvatnaged. Sixes with a Five-win possess greater powers of concentration and focus than the other subtype, although they sometimes can be perceived as too narrow in their concerns. They are usually shrewed observers of the environment, particularly people, and put a premium on foresight and predicting how others will react. Their perceptions are more original than those Sixes with a Seven-wing, but because Six is the basic type, they do come across not as intellectuals but as extremely competent, knowledgable individuals.

Post Edited (Corey) : 10/22/2008 6:16:03 AM (GMT-5)

I took the test.

Personality Type NINE: The Peacemaker

The Easygoing, Self-Effacing Type: Receptive, Reassuring, Agreeable, and Complacent

Generally, Nines are patient, steady, easygoing, receptive, relaxed, unselfconscious, agreeable, uncomplicated, contented, comforting, sensual, and idealizing.

Nines get into conflicts by being emotionally unavailable, complacent, inattentive, unaware of their own anger, ineffectual, passive-aggressive, unrealistic, resigned, and stubborn.

At their best, Nines are self-aware, dynamic, inclusive, steadfast, healing, proactive, contemplative, natural, imaginative, serene, and exuberant, engaged and passionate.

My 9 was 23 (Peacemaker)

My 5 was 21 (Investigator)

My 4 was 18 (Individualist)

The 5 in me is strong, but in the end I care more about people than ideas. And after many years of attempting to be a 5 (including my PhD plans) I woke up. The past 18 months on this board debating with D played a BIG part in my burning out on high-end philosophical/theological speculations. So long as I could see and show others HOW some academic (5 type) issue MATTERED to how we lived with one another (my 9 coming out), I was cool with the 5 stuff. 5 is a means to a 9 end! But in the end I saw so much of what we discussed (and my PhD plans) as ultimately pointless. And unable to bring it into the service of humanity in some clear way, a way that would justify all the expense and time that PhD research exacts, those plans got tanked. And in its place? A second masters in Marriage & Family Therapy. People who know me were like, "Wow! No PhD? Therapy instead? Hmmm. But you know...that sounds like you too. You'd be great at that."

Let's hope so.

T

Post Edited (Tom) : 10/22/2008 6:03:15 AM (GMT-5)