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One Love
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| Posted 10/10/2008 7:46 AM (GMT -6) |   | | The Holy Spirit of Christ the Logos is the perpetual, loving, grounding "interiority" of Satan.
All I need is a one word answer.
Post away.
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 10/10/2008 9:45 AM (GMT -6) | | Oooooo...<---that's one word. 
Brandon
It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.
To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa
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One Love
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| Posted 10/10/2008 10:33 AM (GMT -6) | | | Just to reflect on while answering...
"...it follows from this that Christ as Creator-Logos is to be envisaged, not as on the outside, but as on the inside of everything. It is a frequent fault of religious writers that they speak of the created universe as if it were an artifact of a Maker Who has, so to speak, produced it from without. God the Creator becomes the celestial Clock-maker Who sets the cosmic process in motion, winding up the clock, but then leaving it to continue ticking on its own. This will not do. It is important to avoid such images as the divine architect, builder or engineer, and to speak rather in terms of indwelling (without thereby excluding the dimension of divine transcendence). Creation is not something upon which God acts from the outside, but something through which he expresses Himself from within. Transcendent, He is also immanent; above and beyond creation, He is also its true inwardness, its 'within.' "
Bishop Kallistos of Diokleia
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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One Love
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| Posted 10/10/2008 10:34 AM (GMT -6) | | | Come on, y'all.
Y'all can AT LEAST do me THIS favor!
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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One Love
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| Posted 10/10/2008 10:40 AM (GMT -6) | | Let's say it's God (who is Love) creating and sustaining each and everything from the "core", or "center" or "most inward element" of that thing...as the ground of it's being.
In the very "center" of anything and everything, there is God's Presence as Logos/Creator.
Like the quote above indicates.
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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Tom
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| Posted 10/10/2008 10:44 AM (GMT -6) | | I'll agree that God is the ground of all contingent beings, Satan included. I don't know how any Christian theism could disagree. ;o)
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One Love
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| Posted 10/10/2008 11:00 AM (GMT -6) | | More thought...
Christ the Logos has always been the Divine Presence WITHIN Satan, from BEFORE his fall...all the way up through Satan tempting Christ on earth. In other words, Christ-the-Logos was ON THE INSIDE of Satan (creating, sustaining, and loving him) WHILE Satan was trying to tempt him into sinning against God...and destroying the world.
All Satan can do is DENY THE REALITY of that...to himself and others. (Kierkegaard says that Satan's despair is the height of DEFIANCE against the reality of God!) He can't do anything to SEPARATE himself from God's love inside anymore than WE can. (Romans 8) Christ is IN HIM...just like Christ is IN EVERYTHING ELSE as Creator/Sustainer/Logos.
He just won't admit that reality to himself and "serve" God accordingly. (Other "angels" do.)
Satan (an non-corporeal, spiritual quasi-personal reality) promotes the tendency towards being addictively stuck in a pattern of NEGATION and SELF-DECEPTION concerning God's True Presence...placing the negating, self-deceiving "self" over God as the "center of oneself", attempting to be the deepest interiority of it's OWN existence (Which IS despair). He does this INSTEAD OF living "transparently grounded" in the Power that constantly creates him. (Which is the REMOVAL of despair)
And this is the spiritual death that HUMAN BEINGS can fall into...by not living in faith. (Whatever is not of faith is sin.)
Make sense?
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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