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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 12/22/2008 9:27 AM (GMT -6) |   | Thought.
When Satan got Jesus crucified...and he was thinkin' was it was over. The Son of God is gonna die. He's gonna give up. he's got to now. But on the cross, something happened. Jesus never chose to love God or his neighbor. Jesus was not trapped in self-reflection or self-interest on the Cross...but steady focused on the Father's Love and Will. Even feeling the pain of utter sorrow. And he surrendered his spirit to the Father in the midst what appeared to be Jesus' greatest failure. Jesus surrendered his life as a true human person in the midst of utter human nothingness.
And he proved the Devil wrong.
"A man will give all he has for his own life." --Satan (Job 2:4)
I can see the devil saying something like this...
"Humanity's too linked to it's own self-preservation and self-expansion "limbic brain" exercise. There's no one who will serve you with unconditional love and trust at the utter cost of their own life. No one can go to their death...and continue with the Great Commandments. Self-centeredness and divisiveness is too wired into them, socially and biologically. I've got the power of the movement to nothingness (death)...so I got this."
God to Satan: "Silly wabbit."
The Person of God incarnated as a true human being...and did it.
The Incarnate Word lived and died as a Spirit-indwelled "living sacrifice" who always embodied the Great Commandments
And you know the rules, Satan...
True Love CANNOT die. It's eternal. Love is immortal.
So guess what...
Humans, beings grounded in nothingness (creation ex nihilo) CAN have eternal life...because human beings CAN be faithful to My Commandment, through My Spirit. Even unto death. And Love transcends death.
Resurrection. The Risen Son giving the Holy Spirit.
God to Satan..."You lose, buddy."
"The righteous will live by faith."
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 12/22/2008 11:06 AM (GMT -6) |   | All things in Christology are judged in the light of the resurrection. The incarnation in itself does not constitute a guarantee of salvation. The fact that finally death is conquered gives us the right to believe that the conqueror of death was also originally God. This is the way in which Christology in the New Testament has developed--from the resurrection to the incarnation, not the other way round--and patristic theology has never lost this eschatological approach to Christology. Consequently, when we say that Christ escaped the necessity and the "passions" of nature, we do not imply that He remained a stranger to the conditions of biological existence (for example, He suffered the supreme passion of the biological hypostasis, the passion of death). But the fact that He rose from the dead rendered this passion "without hypostasis": the real hypostasis of Christ was proved to not be the biological one, but the eschatological or trinitarian hypostasis. John Zizioulas, Being As Communion, note on page 55.
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We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we declare God's wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written: "What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived— these things God has prepared for those who love him"
for God has revealed them to us by his Spirit.
God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.
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