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One Love
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   Posted 1/20/2009 6:58 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Inauguration Day. 
5:49 am.
Just fed my newborn daughter.
Thinking about God's Mercy...and Ajna growing up in these times...
 
So...
 
Young Jeezy and Nas
"My President is Black"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI4mtcIu5HY

My Sav-i-or is One
Three Persons, too.
I'll never trust human might
cause it ain't true.
I thank God for change
cuz' I know the Source
It's time to rearrange
America, we movin' course!
 
My Sav-i-or is One
Three Persons, too.
I'll never trust human might
cause it ain't true.
I thank God for change
cuz' I know the Source
It's time to rearrange
America, we movin' course!

Today is a big day.
History in the makin'
Haters is in the way
Mystery got em shakin'
Askin' "Can he do it?"
Can he fix all the problems.
Economy, war, poverty
Can he dissolve em?
 
What if he messes up
He gonna get tested...
What if he fesses up
He's less than requested.
Fear and doubt all over.
Look and you can't miss.
Even up in the church...so...
I want to ask this...
 
Where are the faithful?
Where the believers?
Who are the Spirit-filled
that catch like receivers..
I mean, the Spirit's Fire...
just like a Hail Mary!
Christ is the Messiah
Why we livin' scary?
 
Obama's just one man
America is a movement.
God got big plans
Time for "Home Improvement"
Time to clean house
Time to do repentance
Time to love our neighbors
Time to change the sentence.
 
The work of Dr. King
Was born in the Scriptures
So, when you look at Obama
Taking them pictures...
Give praise to the Lord
for manifesting a Dream
Justice like many waters
Righteousness, a mighty stream!
 
My Sav-i-or is One
Three Persons, too.
I'll never trust human might
cause it ain't true.
I thank God for change
cuz' I know the Source
It's time to rearrange
America, we movin' course!
 
My Sav-i-or is One
Three Persons, too.
I'll never trust human might
cause it ain't true.
I thank God for change
cuz' I know the Source
It's time to rearrange
America, we movin' course!
 
 
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.  Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.  These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts.  Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up.  Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.  Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates."
 
 


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   Posted 1/20/2009 9:15 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have mixed feelings about the title and content of the rap.

Anybody else feelin' me?

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   Posted 1/20/2009 11:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I find the characterization of anyone who's "in the way" of Obama's agenda as being fearful "haters" to be offensive, if not sinfully hypocritical judgmentalism.

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   Posted 1/20/2009 12:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Corey:
I find the characterization of anyone who's "in the way" of Obama's agenda as being fearful "haters" to be offensive, if not sinfully hypocritical judgmentalism.

How about you give me the most charitable interpretation of what you think I could be saying in the rhyme? Just try it for me, Corey. Here's a coupla hints...

1) Assume I don't think that all people that merely question and/or disagree with Obama's political agenda are "haters." That "haters" is describing some deeper than that.

2) Assume my primary focus may be seen in the chorus line...possibly dealing with never trusting human might (including Obama who's "just one man." )
 
3) One more.  Consider that I may be intentionally justaposing the assumptions of  "My President is Black" with more theocentric ones in my stuff.

Just for the sake of our previous relations...try that.


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   Posted 1/20/2009 12:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom:
I have mixed feelings about the title and content of the rap.

Are you talkin' about Jeezy's song or mine. Mine didn't have a title...hence my confusion.


God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.

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   Posted 1/20/2009 12:39 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What both Tom and Corey said.  I'm think'n "nationalism" in conjunction with what Tommy said.  Like this verse here:
 
Obama's just one man
America is a movement.
God got big plans
Time for "Home Improvement"
Time to clean house
Time to do repentance
Time to love our neighbors
Time to change the sentence.
 
Is America special?  God's got big plans for her?  Let me put up something that I got in my email today.
 
Colson on Prayer, Church, and America
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The Religion and Society Debate 

16 — January 19, 2009

In his Breakpoint radio commentary of December 30, 2008, Chuck Colson began by saying that in recent months he had been starting his prayer time “by concentrating on the Church. I pray—actually, I plead, the Lord would wake us up, cause us to repent, turn from our own false idols. I pray God’s Spirit would fill us with a burning desire to love Him and advance His kingdom.” He continued, “We can’t pray for our nation to be revived, to be saved, to receive God’s mercy; we can’t pray for our leaders to make wise decisions unless we first pray for the Church.”

Colson then moved to the economic crisis. “When it comes to the economy, our nation has dug a hole for itself. And sure enough, we are continuing to dig. At a recent meeting with President-elect Obama, the nation’s governors had their hands out, asking for federal dollars. The President-elect was all too happy to oblige.” Colson was encouraged, however, to be able to report that South Carolina’s governor, Mark Sanford, had offered the following comment at the governors’ meeting: “We don’t believe economic problems that were in large measure created by too much debt will be solved by more debt.”

This took Colson back to the errors of Christians and their “idolatry of consumerism.” “Our nation is in this crisis,” Colson said, “precisely because we’ve traded in a Christian worldview of work, thrift, savings, and prudence, and instead have embraced the false worldview of consumerism—of leisure, debt, and instant gratification. . . . And insofar as we Christians have abandoned our heritage and have bought into the idolatry of consumerism, we have betrayed not only our God, but the nation we love.” Colson was emphatic: “This nation cannot be saved unless the church is first revived. Renewing the Church is the key to saving America.”

Yet that emphatic assertion was not the climax of the commentary. Colson’s prayerful passion led further: “I no longer know for sure that America has a special place in God’s sovereign plan for the world. I could argue that we have in the past. No other nation has played such a positive role—from helping the poor to defeating tyranny to stopping the spread of disease . . . . But we will be unable to continue to be a force for good in the world if we are bankrupt.”

There is much here for Christians to chew on. There are biblical grounds for Colson and fellow Christians to pray for the church. But who is the church? Biblically speaking, it is the people of God in Christ spread throughout the world. It is a body of the faithful, learning habits of repentance from sin and the practice of obedience to the Lord. The body of Christ is the salt of the earth and light to the world. Yet Colson’s message leaves me with the feeling that he is talking about the church in America, the American church. The wider world doesn’t come into view until he is talking about the good that America has done and should do for the world. And in that context the worldwide church is nowhere in sight. Rather, it is God’s specially blessed America, rather than the church, that Colson seems primarily concerned about at this juncture.

The church Colson appears to be thinking of is composed of those Americans who should turn from their consumerism so America can be revived, so America can be saved by God’s mercy. Americans—Christians included—have embraced a worldview of “leisure, debt, and instant gratification” and relinquished the worldview of “work, thrift, savings, and prudence.” Now this sounds like something Benjamin Franklin would say, but it doesn’t sound like the heart of the biblical gospel. The Bible’s good news is that God’s mercy in Christ calls people throughout the world to turn from all kinds of sin, including idolatrous nationalism, to a full life of discipleship. It is not a mercy transmitted to the world through God’s thrifty, hard-working Americans.

Does Colson’s deepest concern arise because of the sins of the church worldwide, due in part to the negative influence of the consumerism of its American members? Or does Colson’s deepest agony arise from his fear that God may be withdrawing his special blessing from America?

On what basis could Colson once have been sure that God had a special place for America in his “sovereign plan for the world?” There are no biblical grounds for that conviction. Therefore it is also hard to know how Colson later could have come to doubt that America has that special place any longer. These questions lead to other concerns about Colson’s view of America and the church. Are there other sins and idolatries besides indebtedness and the desire for instant gratification that burden Colson? Does he imagine that America has always been a force for good in the world before it started going too far into debt? Was it hearing that Obama and the governors were willing to go further into debt that really got Colson thinking about sin of indebtedness, or has he been agonizing about this for the last eight years during Bush’s presidency as the national debt kept climbing to double what it was in 2000?

Colson concludes his commentary with this sentence:  “For if the Church continues to embrace the ways of the world, I don’t see how America can maintain its place in the world—much less survive in it.” This sums up what troubles me most deeply about Colson’s meditation. The church Colson has in mind appears to be a means to the end of God’s special plan for America, now in danger of losing its special place in God’s plan. But Isaiah tells us that all nations are mere dust on God’s scales and under the same criteria of judgment (40:15; also see Paul in Acts 17:26-31). In praying for the church Colson should think of it not as a means to America’s end but as God’s truly chosen people—Israel fulfilled through the in-grafting of believers from every nation into Christ (Rom. 11:13-24).
   
James W. Skillen, President
Center for Public Justice

http://www.cpjustice.org/content/colson-prayer-church-and-america


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   Posted 1/20/2009 12:43 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Amazing.


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   Posted 1/20/2009 12:46 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
So, to say that God has "big plans" for America (given our founding ideals and what not)...is to necessarily say that America is some special "city set on a hill" in comparison to the rest of the world? Or it's to necessarily conflate the Kingdom of God with American politics?
 
For real?


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   Posted 1/20/2009 12:58 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Let me make my thoughts plain.  Who knew it'd get like this?

1) The level of actualization of MLK'S "Dream" (which in my mind was grounded primarily in Scriptural reflection, but also in genuinely American ideals/values) demonstrated in the American people choosing an African-American president is to be accounted more to God's gracious working than to "human might", which cannot be trusted. ("...all nations are mere dust on God’s scales and under the same criteria of judgment." )

2) I trust God, not Obama...or any other human leader. But I said this during the race for the presidency.

3) If fear of a certain leader and/or situation outruns faith in the One Savior God and Messiah by "livin' scary", that's not a good thing. 

4) The ideals that America stands for is bigger than any "one man", including the supposed superman, Obama.

5) I do believe that it's time for "housecleaning" and that God will be active in that.  Specifically, with the "loving our neighbors" thing.


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:00 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Side Note: Obama's inaugural speech was pretty good.


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:08 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
In the context of America and your poem (sound pretty epic there)...it sounds like that is what you are saying. Its poetry so it is possible to interpret it that way. Was Obama God's big plan? What are these big plans? It seems to me that there are no big plans for America than there is for any other nation.


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:11 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Choosing an African American president is due to God's gracious workings?  For real?  Aggghh!!!  shakehead


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:11 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brandon:
In the context of America and your poem (sound pretty epic there)...it sounds like that is what you are saying. Its poetry so it is possible to interpret it that way. Was Obama God's big plan? What are these big plans? It seems to me that there are no big plans for America than there is for any other nation.

Would you deny that it's God's "big plan" to have a given nation do the following things?

1) "clean house" (Operate justly)
2) "do repentance" (Turn from the evil ways)
3) "love our neighbors" (Great commandment)


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:13 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Brandon:
Choosing an African American president is due to God's gracious workings? For real? Aggghh!!!

Oy vay.

Coming from where our nation has (civil rights movements), you don't think that a Christian who marched with Dr. King would see today's operations as "God's gracious workings"?  [Jesse Jackson?] I know how my late grandfather felt about Obama just being in the primary against Hillary...and he glorified God for that.
 
Wowzers.


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:16 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
But you are also said,
"Today is a big day.
History in the makin'
 
Like NOW we can get on with the business of justice, etc.  Boy, what happens if history really isn't made today nor in four or eight years? Ugh...c'mon.  Listen, I gotta fly to work...I'll respond more when I get home.


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Brandon:
Like NOW we can get on with the business of justice, etc. Boy, what happens if history really isn't made today nor in four or eight years?

Brandon,

Today IS a historic day. "History in the making" is what has been described by MULTIPLE outlets of media describing this Inauguration Day. It is the day that someone other than a white male became President of the United States. It would have been just as "historic" if Hillary had one in that regard.  And, to some, that shows growth in America towards it's long held ideals.

What is this?  Wow...


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:36 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
 
(I'd better say this...the above picture is a joke.)


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   Posted 1/20/2009 1:41 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
D: How about you give me the most charitable interpretation of what you think I could be saying in the rhyme?

C: Didn't realize it was your rhyme, sorry.

Since I now know it's you, I will assume as you suggested.

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   Posted 1/20/2009 2:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
For starters, I thought the inauguration was great. Obama’s speech was excellent, very inspirational. Rick Warren’s invocation was also great. Rev. Joseph Lowery’s benediction was the best of all.

I just thought that if four years ago when Bush was elected I offered a rap entitled “Hey, my President is white!” people would object, and so they ought. I can't imagine a charitable interpretation that wouldn't be trivial.

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Tom:
For starters, I thought the inauguration was great. Obama’s speech was excellent, very inspirational. Rick Warren’s invocation was also great. Rev. Joseph Lowery’s benediction was the best of all.

Yep.

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Tom:
I just thought that if four years ago when Bush was elected I offered a rap entitled “Hey, my President is white!” people would object, and so they ought. I can't imagine a charitable interpretation that wouldn't be trivial.

1) You do understand that "My President is Black" is Jeezy's song name, not mine, right? That's HIS title. My attempt was to intentionally RETOOL his song using his beat, specifically focussing on God, not blackness or even "diversity." I guess I could have made that clearer...but I figured the lyrics of the two songs were so different, it would have been seen kinda easy from the chorus lines.

2) There is a breadth of meaning to the statement "My President is Black" that can deal with felt alienation from a system where presidents are traditionally White. And I could see room for at least a charitable understanding of where something like this came from. But you and I have danced these interpretational waters between the differences in our cultural experiences.


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OK...so you don't want to make a big deal out of Obama being black because it could have been a woman and anyone other than a historically white male in there.  But do you not have any issues with this at all?  With what you are saying?  In the sense of gender or race or ethnicity, making that something of an occasion?  If you want to say that "history" as in MONUMENTAL history has occurred in that this is a first, that's cool.  I'm down with that.  But THATS all that would be.  Nothing more.  In my eyes, I'm simply saying that when it comes to justice for all, that which government should be about, his being black or there being a women in the White House is such a trivial issue.  So what matters is what he thinks of government (its roles and limits/does he think it should act omnincompetently?) and if he can practice the art of state-craft wisely.  There's so much more at stake.


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D-

I actually didn’t go to the site to listen to the rap ‘cause I assumed from the way you posted that all the words were the words to that same rap. You didn’t specify otherwise.

But that’s OK. My reservations about the title still stand. I don’t have any doubt at all that if I wrote a song entitled “Hey, my President is white!” I’d get shut down, and probably ought to be.

Similarly, this is what always got me about the movie Fiddler on the Roof about a poor Jewish farmer in Russia who compromises his “tradition” in giving up one daughter after another to marriages that dodn’t go down the way he thinks they ought to (one daughter to a 'poor' Jewish man, another to a politically radical Jewish man). But he made room for these and went along. But when the last daughter wanted to marry a Gentile Russian, a non-Jewish boy, well, that was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The father disowned his daughter.

And people raved about the movie and thought it was SO wonderful.

But what would the Jewish community think if I made a movie about a Gentile father who was willing to compromise every tradition he had in order to modernize with the exception that he disowned a son who went and married a Jewish girl? "Anything but THAT!" the Gentile father says. There’s no doubt about the objections and accusations that would come my way. No doubt. You see the point.

I listened to one black commentator on the inauguration afterwards on the news. He said (not verbatim mind ya), “This is the first time blacks are able to really believe that a black person can become something in the United States.” I thought, “That’s pitiful. You’ve got a PhD and are well-traveled. What about all the black persons (senators, representatives, Supreme Court justices, university presidents, ambassadors, doctors, lawyers, astronauts, recognized scientists and inventors, artists, authors, actors, and on and on) who have been achieving their dreams and more (and under white presidents)? You’re telling me that only NOW you’re able to believe America is a place where black people can achieve their dreams? MLK’s dream is only JUST NOW fulfilled? And you got your PhD under a white president. That's either dishonesty or a kind of willful blindness.”

My point is that this black commentator, an educated man, had become what he claimed to despise. He believed that his best interests were endangered by white leaders as a race and safeguarded by black leaders as a race. And that’s just racism all over again. In expressing his hopes and dreams in terms of the color of his leaders he had become the problem he claims he wants to solve. I'm just wondering whether or not the cry for racial justice on the part of the suffering isn't sometimes a mixture of the sincere hope for justice (a good thing) and the mistaken belief that the answer is found in an arrangment that repeats the same mistake.

That’s not to discount the ‘historical’ significance of Obama’s becoming president. It’s about how to interpret the event.

This is also not to discount that racism is still alive and well in America. It’s just to say that MLK’s dream can be fulfilled (and black people adequately represented) by a white president (AND visa versa) THAT is the point. The color of his skin determines nothing. But it seems that for many the color of his skin is ‘what it’s about’. But MLK’s dream is just that—a day when color wouldn’t matter, period. But I SOMETIMES get the feeling that SOME black people don’t really buy into that vision. They want color to matter. Know what I mean? (And the same goes for white folk.)

On an aside, I thought Greg’s comments on his blog about Colin Powell’s speech on MLK day were also great. MLK believed that no good of lasting significance can come from violence. He was a pacifist. And yet here is a man of war (Powell) representing MLK. How’s that? A white pacifist would represented MLK and his dream better than this black soldier.

I had some thoughts about your text, but that’s cool. No need to get into that.

Tom

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Tom:
I listened to one black commentator on the inauguration afterwards on the news. He said (not verbatim mind ya), “This is the first time blacks are able to really believe that a black person can become something in the United States.” I thought, “That’s pitiful. You’ve got a PhD and are well-traveled. What about all the black persons (senators, representatives, Supreme Court justices, university presidents, ambassadors, doctors, lawyers, astronauts, recognized scientists and inventors, artists, authors, actors, and on and on) who have been achieving their dreams and more (and under white presidents)? You’re telling me that only NOW you’re able to believe America is a place where black people can achieve their dreams? MLK’s dream is only JUST NOW fulfilled? And you got your PhD under a white president. That's either dishonesty or a kind of willful blindness.”

Hmmmmm. 
 
Let me say it this way.  This is an overstatement to be sure.  Just like some people of color who say that NOTHING has changed since the days of American slavery.  It's overstatement into obvious falsehood...or being "willfully blind"
 
H O W E V E R....
 
There is ANOTHER POINT being made here.  With the first person of color (I wouldn't just say "black") taking arguably the highest office in the land, it demonstrates to some that MORE OPTIONS are open to people of color socially speaking, than has EVER existed in this country  before.  And that's significant.
 
So I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water on this one.  It wouldn't be helpful to you dealing with other people of color.  Seriously.
 
Just wondering, Tom.  What is your personal ground for interpreting the African-American experience?  Back in 2004, I remember hearing a friend of Greg's (a white Bethel prof) say one time that he knew more about the African-American experience than black people did because (he felt) he knew more about the social situations of African-Americans than they did.  I can't tell you how much I had to bite my tongue on THAT one...

Actually, SKIP the question above.  Just think about that one.  I'd much rather hear about your thoughts on my rap.  I bet you've got some insightful things on it. :-)


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   Posted 1/21/2009 9:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, you tell me D. Why wouldn't black people be encouraged by all these black people who did achieve their dreams before Obama got elected to believe that America is a place where black people can achieve their dreams? What do successful black people say about the possibility of black success in America prior to Obama's election?

Dang.

I'm not saying black people haven't faced greater obstacles. I'm not saying there are no black people who had dreams but who were consistently shut out and disabled. I'm just saying that black people have every reason prior to Obama's election to believe that they CAN succeed. Nobody's success is guaranteed.

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   Posted 1/21/2009 9:57 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ha! My history with black America?

Well, it's not yours, no doubt. I had black friends in school (from elementary on), hung out with them in extra-curricular activities, and in High School dated a black girl (am I really saying this all? Ha!), and had some close black friends whose homes I visited (studied together, hung out, etc.). After High School I worked in construction (50 hours a week) with all black guys (loved it). You know me too, I'd purposefully get into conversations about God, life, race, issues, etc., with them. Some other stuff. Nothing impressive I'm sure. Nothing I would brag on as uniquely qualifying me to speak about "black America."

There are some issues, D, I admit, where such a skimply history with blacks would disqualify me from openning my mouth. But whether success is possible for blacks in America prior to Obama's election is possible is not one of them. And whether I'm able to judge this commentator's view as racist is, also, not one of them.

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T
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