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Chazz
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Date Joined Sep 2009
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Posted 9/22/2009 1:32 AM (GMT -6)

I am curious about how an advocate of Open Theism views divine timelessness. Would they automatically not accept it? It seem that if divine timelessness is true than the question of open theism is not even an issue because there really is no future "to know" since everything is present to God. Technically I guess open theism would be true in a sense because it woulld not be logically possible to know the future if it does not exist (in God's way of seeing it).

Tom
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Posted 9/22/2009 5:57 AM (GMT -6)

Right, something like that. Open theism is incompatible with a B-theory of time. We're all A-theorists, most of us presentists. That said, God is also (at least since creation) temporal. Bill Craig argues it too well to try to add anything more.

Tom

Starkman
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Posted 9/22/2009 12:43 PM (GMT -6)

Chazz said...
It seem that if divine timelessness is true than the question of open theism is not even an issue because there really is no future "to know" since everything is present to God.

I'd ask if divine timelessness needs to be equated with the future, period. It seems that since you say, "there really is no future 'to know'," it shouldn't be conclude then, that every thing is present to God, if what you mean is that all of the future is as if it has already happened before God.

There is no future to know (with the exception of that future which God has ordained to be) because, plain and simple, it just ain't happened yet.

Starkman

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