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One Love
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|  Posted 11/7/2009 11:24 AM (GMT -6) |   | | Ok.
We now know two things about Creation:
1) Actual matter is the rarest thing that exists in what we understand to be the universe, taking into account dark energy, dark matter, and all that. All human beings are products of our Sun's energy and matter, right? That "starstuff" is some of the rarest stuff in the "material" aspect of Creation. Yeah.
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Ok. Let's say that we take that in.
So...
When we think of this...along with the Christian belief that Uncreated Energy sustains all points of Creation...
Would it be...I don't know...crazy for someone who experienced the "Tabor Light" uncreated energy to think that Creation was "nothing" before God's Omni-Presence (ie. "white light" experience)?
"Creation is allowed in intimate love to speak to the Creator as if to a lover. As the Creator loves the creation, so the creation loves the Creator. The whole world has been embraced by this kiss."
Hildegard of Bingen
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One Love
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| Posted 11/7/2009 11:31 AM (GMT -6) | | Ok. Let's keep going.
Sunyata.
Emptiness that is Form...that is Emptiness...
but grounded in Kenotic Love... (See Mahayana, particularly)
"Creation is allowed in intimate love to speak to the Creator as if to a lover. As the Creator loves the creation, so the creation loves the Creator. The whole world has been embraced by this kiss."
Hildegard of Bingen
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One Love
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| Posted 11/7/2009 11:39 AM (GMT -6) | | Wait. For Hinduism...
There is the Prakasa / Akasa relationship.
Notice the similiarity of their experience of Prakasa...and the Christian experience of God's uncreated light.
Notice the similiarity of the concept of Akasha...to that of the "fifth element" idea of Plato and the like.
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"Creation is allowed in intimate love to speak to the Creator as if to a lover. As the Creator loves the creation, so the creation loves the Creator. The whole world has been embraced by this kiss."
Hildegard of Bingen
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One Love
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| Posted 11/7/2009 11:48 AM (GMT -6) | | From Greg's Trinity and Process, pages 394-395
God's Relationship to Non-Divine Reality
The disposition of God to create a non-divine reality--which is itself a contingent feature of God's necessary disposition to be God --is thus a disposition to create experiential centers of, and contributors to, non-divine beauty. It is a disposition to create a matrix of relations with ordinal centers, each of which enjoys and/or contributes to an approximation of divine beauty. The divine disposition "diffuses itself" (Edwards) into a multiplicity of dispositions which "aim at" a unique actualization, a unique perspective on reality, which is defined either as an contribution to, and/or an experience of, beauty.
It is at this point of this "diffusion" that the distinction between God and the non-divine world occurs. The multiplicity of dispositions towards non-divine realities are themselves non-divine in their concrescence. The "termini" of God's creative act is not (as with Neville) the creature act itself, but the beginning of the (not wholly determined) disposition of the creature which shall act. The non-divine disposition arises out of God--it is an aspect of God's self-disposition to delight in Godself--and results in what is not God.
Yeah...
I'd say this is where the Uncreated Energy of God "breathes" created order into being...continually. Giving it being...in the midst of so much "nothing." Continuous Creation in the "Void". The "point of the diffusion" would kinda be the "meeting place" of Prakasa and Akasa. Dependent origination makes sense and everything.
PS: Besides all that, this meshes so much with Maximus the Confessor's "Logos/logoi/tropoi" ideas...it's just crazy.
"Creation is allowed in intimate love to speak to the Creator as if to a lover. As the Creator loves the creation, so the creation loves the Creator. The whole world has been embraced by this kiss."
Hildegard of Bingen
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