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Tom
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   Posted 1/9/2010 11:06 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
EO gets some of the core issues right on. Others they get wrong. Nobody's perfect! Ha.

The Salvage Yard, baby. The Salvage Yard. That's what the Church is.

Tom


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Corey
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   Posted 1/9/2010 11:07 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Thanks, D. I'm thinking through stuff like this too.

I just ordered Becoming Orthodox: A Journey to the Ancient Christian Faith by Peter E. Gillquist. I'm particularly interested in his story as it is more closely parallel to my own formation through the college years -- the time when it all be became deliberate and personal for me -- in Campus Crusade.

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Orthodox_Church

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   Posted 1/9/2010 11:54 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom:
EO gets some of the core issues right on. Others they get wrong. Nobody's perfect! Ha.

You ain't never lied...
 
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Bar Hopping With Jesus

January 08, 2010 Length: 13:37

Fr. Joseph reads a creative letter from the Orthodixie Mailbag. It's not what it seems. Or, is it?

 



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Corey:
Thanks, D. I'm thinking through stuff like this too.

I just ordered Becoming Orthodox: A Journey to the Ancient Christian Faith by Peter E. Gillquist. I'm particularly interested in his story as it is more closely parallel to my own formation through the college years -- the time when it all be became deliberate and personal for me -- in Campus Crusade
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Cool, man. Let us know how that sounds to ya. I'd love your perspective on Gillquist's journey given your own. Also here's some more stuff about various "journeys" to Orthodoxy. Some interesting reading...


Lord Jesus, have mercy.

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One Love
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   Posted 1/9/2010 11:59 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Salvage Yard.

Yeah...


Lord Jesus, have mercy.

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   Posted 11/13/2010 12:11 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey, did you guys ever pick up the book "Beyond Salvation: Easteron Orthodoxy and Classical Pentecostalism on Becoming Like Christ by Edmund J. Rybarczyk that you mention earlier? I started reading it on the plane going out to Cali last year. Excellent read.


Brandon
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To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa

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Tom
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   Posted 11/13/2010 7:11 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I remember the Orthodox Paul Gavrilyuk (Prof at St. Thomas U) telling me he visited a pentecostal EO church in Florida. Interesting.

Tom


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   Posted 11/13/2010 8:10 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Tom: He's (I'd say) more process than openness (affirms the Trinity but insists on a necessary God-world relation, so kinda in the middle there somewhere).

Jeff: Interesting. Does that mean he thinks God has had creatures in existence at every point of time of an infinite past? Once you have a plurality of the godhead, I'm not seeing what positing a necessary God-world relationship would explain. Does he say why he thinks that?


 

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Tom
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   Posted 11/13/2010 9:06 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
He wouldn't argue that whatever non-God entities exist, sentient creatures must ALWAYS have been among them. He might just say there exists alongside God some primoridal chaotic blob. But you're right, once you posit a trinity of divine persons, you don't need a necessary creation. And that's just what process folks do. Oord is less consistent I think on this (being a trinitarian). I read a couple of his books and looked for an explanation along this lines but couldn't find anything.

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BBBCanada
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   Posted 11/13/2010 11:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom said...
I remember the Orthodox Paul Gavrilyuk (Prof at St. Thomas U) telling me he visited a pentecostal EO church in Florida. Interesting.

Tom

I can see that. EO/Pentecostal or EO with Pentecostal leanings.  Just like you would see Charismatic Catholics.  But this wouldn't happen on the other side of the coin.  Meaning that if he had visited a Pentecostal church it would be more Pentecostal than EO. A good part of the reason is because of control and fear of ecumenism in Pentecostal denominations like the AG.  Definitely will have to be some walls that are overcome just to start dialoguing between EO and Pentecostals.


Brandon
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Tom
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   Posted 11/13/2010 12:40 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Oh yeah.

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