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Starkman
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| Posted 1/5/2010 2:35 PM (GMT -6) |   | I saw it. Very good! I didn't see (nor read into) any need to make more of the movie than what I believe it was; a good movie.
Consider Avatar a si-fy/fantasy from a Native American perspective; what a Native American steeped in that culture might write for a good si-fi/fantasy.
The special affects were astounding when it came to military equipment and such, but not as realistic when it came to the creatures (why that is still the case, I don't understand).
Overall, the movie is about...well, what history seems to be about in all eras: if not conquer and control just for the power of it all, at least conquer and control because of money. What's new, eh. Only this time, the humans are the nasty guys (what's new about that as well), and the people of the planet the humans are bothering are the decent folk.
Hey, Hollywood's always been fair when it comes to portraying aliens—whether they arrive on earth or we go out to meet them—as good guys some of the time and bad guys other times. This time the aliens are the good guys.
That's about it.
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Starkman
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| Posted 1/5/2010 3:01 PM (GMT -6) | | Tom, I'm all about this with you!
And that you could relate and be attracted to Neytiri only says how well the that aspect of the movie came across. I share the same feelings. She was a great character and related well who and what she was.
What the hek's wrong with that?! I mean, I think that's a cool way to do a movie, you know.
And as to the New Age stuff...I mean, for pete's sake, it's si-fi/fantasy, and if the Native American culture was the source of inspiration for the alien culture in the movie, then why, indeed, are we so quick to rush into "Oh, it was so New Age"? No...it was so Native American. Let it be, man! (Like finding a witch behind every rock in the first Harry Potter movie...gads, I mean, there was nothing of the sort. But...well, that's another post.)
Anyway, it's a good movie. Definitely see it and enjoy it for what it is.
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PotOnWheel
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One Love
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| Posted 1/6/2010 9:36 AM (GMT -6) | | Wifey and I saw it yesterday. Lots of thoughts. Here are some...
1) Great movie
2) Largely agree with Starky. Same old display of the "conquer and control" elements of fallen that's not too different from what's demonstrated in human history.
3) The opinion writer needs to learn about Eastern Christianity a little. FIRST about PanENtheism...and what that fully entails. Second, about the MICROCOSMIC and MEDIATORIAL role of the human being with Nature and God. Third, about the fact that Eastern Christians believe that animals AND plants have at least a rudimentary "soul" element. And that means something to the ecological perspective of Christians.
4) There seems to be a "nature worship" vs "technocracy" element to the movie. And this seems to happen in many movies. Like either one can "go native" OR be a technocrat, but NOT have elements of both in complementarity. That's a false dichotomy. (Hence the eucharistic "spiritualization" of the material open to human beings)
5) The "mind-displacement" idea seen here was kinda the same as in the Matrix. Instead of going into a "residual digital self" in the Matrix, the human mind when into an "avatar" in the Navi's homeworld. But essentially the same premises. Even the whole "pull the plug" thing.
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One Love
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| Posted 1/6/2010 9:57 AM (GMT -6) | | |
Yeah. THIS explains his myopic perspective...( "Heaven and Nature" indeed... )
Ross Gregory Douthat — pronounced /ˈdaʊθət/ — (born November 28, 1979) is an American conservative author and blogger. He was a senior editor at The Atlantic and author of Privilege: Harvard and the Education of the Ruling Class (Hyperion, 2005) and, with Reihan Salam, Grand New Party (Doubleday, 2008), which David Brooks called the "best single roadmap of where the [Republican] party should and is likely to head." He is a film critic for National Review and has also contributed to The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Weekly Standard, the Claremont Review of Books, GQ, Slate, and other publications. In addition, he frequently appears on the video debate site Bloggingheads.tv. In April 2009, he became an online and op-ed columnist for The New York Times, replacing Bill Kristol as a conservative voice on the Times editorial page. Douthat is the youngest regular op-ed writer in the paper's history.
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As an adolescent Douthat converted to Pentecostalism and then, with the rest of his family, to Catholicism.
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