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One Love
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   Posted 8/14/2010 11:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ajna Shekinah Hughes-Polk

(My daughter's name)


Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

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   Posted 8/14/2010 11:49 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm a Jesus-freak!!  FREAK!
 
Check the lyrics...re-interpretation...
 
 
Now everybody that's grown got skeleton bones they got hidden away
Yes y'all there's a freak in us all, yet some choose not to say
You can't let those who ain't yet, make you they lil' ball of clay
Be free and express yourself, it all comes naturally
Listen to me now
It could be the way I wanna freak a song, tattoos, or the way I dress
Or it could be; I wanna walk my way and refusin to follow the rest
Or when people haven't been where you been
and they say you still going too far
Or when you by yoself and
Pull over and do it in the back of the car...
 
I'm a FREAK!!!


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   Posted 8/14/2010 12:19 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's easy to be freaked-out by perfect love, ain't it D???!!!! :-)


 

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   Posted 8/14/2010 12:42 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yessirrrrrrrrrr, bro! ;-)


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   Posted 8/15/2010 8:51 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
D, could you have the experience of white light if you didn't have a brain?

If yes, how do know? If no, then are you really transcending your brain?

Tom


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   Posted 8/15/2010 4:18 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom:
D, could you have the experience of white light if you didn't have a brain?

No.

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Tom:
If no, then are you transcending your brain?

Yes.

The neurological basis for the transforming experience, even given its cultural context, can at best be said to support the revitalization of individuals and societies. The imageless presence of the Divine implicit in Kierkegaard's vision, and in the others cited, can be seen to have a neurological basis but not a neurological explanation. The rush of images to fill in the imageless space remarkably relocates individuals...in a new comprehension of their personal existence in a new composition of their worlds. Because of their transpersonal social significance, perhaps most surprising are the images given to prophets from Divine reconstructions of human life, based in neurology but not able to be explained by that neurology. That is, the neural system in all it complexity is clearly involved, anchoring these experiences in the physical and material order; however, there is neither an account in the neurons as to why (purposive) this occurs, nor what meaning (implicative) these causally connected events have, nor whether they are to be affirmed or rejected (choosing and believing). Consciousness generally, as well as consciousness of God, though always operating partially under the constraints of the neural system, will inevitably exceed the system's limits even as it draws upon its resources, as the strange loop model indicates.

James Loder
The Knight's Move
Page 281-282


Amit Goswami basically says the same thing: The self-reference in the physical universe in the presence of mind/brain activity because of the activity of a reality that transcends, yet draws upon the mind/brain.  This can be seen when the mind is "stilled", achieiving an "imageless" state.


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   Posted 8/15/2010 7:33 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
D: The imageless presence of the Divine implicit in Kierkegaard's vision, and in the others cited, can be seen to have a neurological basis but not a neurological explanation.

T: Then you should be very careful how you define "transcend." If you can't experience the grounding of your identity in Christ apart from possessing a functioning brain, then how you're transcending your brain needs to be carefully explained. That's been my point.

Tom


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