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One Love
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| Posted 1/16/2011 11:43 AM (GMT -6) |   | | This is me.
Violent, threatening, hate-mongering intentionality and rhetoric is unhelpful and UnChrist-like.
Period.
Left or Right.
Just because the Left does it doesn't exonerate it for the Right. And vice versa.
EVERY political servant or activist who has done it should own up to it and repent.
EVERY one of them.
(Sarah Palin and Sandra Bernhard included!)
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. Post Edited (One Love) : 1/16/2011 10:47:06 AM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Similitude
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| Posted 1/16/2011 2:54 PM (GMT -6) | |
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Similtude:
I think we have a positive explanation if UR is true. The longer things go on, the more people there will be. The more the merrier ULTIMATELY.
D: Good thought. If either ECT or annihilation were true, then it would be rational for God to "cut his losses" as it were...and end things quickly.
J: This "positive explanation" also eliminates, for universalists, the need to explain how a loving God could value the statistical deterrent effects of the occassional State killing of an innocent person over the possible good that could have come of that innocent person's life, etc.
IOW, even when such individuals unjustly "lose" in the this-worldy, statistical, utilitarian use of State force, they win ULTIMATELY if UR is true. For the State, by providing enough deterrence to result in a lessening of wrong-relating, will render the eternally-experienced satisfaction of the additional lovers, whose existence was occassioned by State deterrence, a greater ULTIMATE good even for those who were imprisoned or killed wrongly by the State.
Otherwise, those tragedies can at least seem like exceptions to the ABSOLUTE perfectness of God's benevolence. |
Post Edited (Similitude) : 1/16/2011 2:03:19 PM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Similitude
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| Posted 1/16/2011 3:17 PM (GMT -6) | | | But that's where Christ's reign WITH his people comes in. We are the children the Father gives to the Son. But it is not until we reign with him that he becomes the beneficary of his own redemptive work. I.e., for the joy SET BEFORE him he endured the shame. Thus, the current SOFA must come to an end for that reason alone. And this, in part at least, is probably why the creational project is ultimately eschatological--the creation is FOR the Son in the sense that he was to be incarnated with the creatures in an intimate state as you have said. The divine object, then, is to maximize the Son's pleasure in the eschaton. And this is accomplished by the Father enduring the fallen world as long as He can for the Son's sake (and inevitably, because of the nature of divine love, we ultimately become beneficiaries of the Father's longsuffering as well).
It is the fact that love is grounded in sympathy that renders divine love for one (the Son) correlative with love for all once the "others" are created.
Post Edited (Similitude) : 1/16/2011 2:26:49 PM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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