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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 1/19/2011 4:48 PM (GMT -6) |   | Brandon: IOW, there is an a priori assumption of the permeation of the Spirit in and through creation which grounds creation and creational activity ie., civil encounters.
Amos Yong's 3 Axioms for his Pneumatological approach to Theology of Religions (per "Beyond the Impasse" ):
1) God is universally present and active in the Spirit.
2) God's Spirit is the life-breath of the imago Dei in every human being and the presupposition of all human relationships and communities.
3) The religions of the world, like everything else that exists, are providentially sustained by the Spirit of God for divine purposes.
These axioms are why, for the longest time, I've felt as free to indwell Hinduism, Buddhism, Kabbalah, and Sufism as much as I have. God's truth is everywhere...because the Spirit of Truth is everywhere!
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. Post Edited (One Love) : 1/19/2011 3:52:47 PM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 1/19/2011 4:51 PM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
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Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 2763 | Posted 1/19/2011 5:06 PM (GMT -6) |   | Gotta jet to work. But, hmmm...I don't know if that works either way. A. I wanna say that it's possible to use the category of numbers in the use of an analogy, but I'm not for sure. B. I think we still end up with the same answer. The infinite set of numbers in the set is not affected by the subtraction of the finite.
Brandon
It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.
To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa
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    |  One Love Registered Member

Date Joined Jan 2003 Total Posts : 13888 | Posted 1/22/2011 6:53 PM (GMT -6) |   | This sermon convicted the heck outta me!
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And it looks like the Spirit's BEEN convictin'. Look at what John Piper JUST WROTE!!!
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January 21, 2011 | by: John Piper | Category: Commentary
One of the poems I wrote during my leave of absence grew out of my sorrows over grieving the Holy Spirit. It is bad enough to know that God is dishonored by my sin. But to hear Paul connect my particular sins with grieving the Holy Spirit was even more painful.
This he does in Ephesians 4:30–32. He says, “Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.” And then he names my sins: “Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.”
There are mysteries in the self-sufficient Spirit being grieved. And there are many sorrows in saints who do it. And there is a day coming when it will be done no more.
Doubly Relieved
My patient Comforter, my God, My Life, my Breath, my holy Zeal, My soul is doubly sorrowful: That I still sin against your Seal,
And sinning cause my Sovereign grief. I know it is your holy way To make your grief serve perfect joy, But I still pray, O bring the day
When, in the twinkling of an eye, My soul will doubly be relieved: I will not ever sin again, And you will nevermore be grieved.
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I feel you, man. I feel you.
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. Post Edited (One Love) : 1/22/2011 5:57:30 PM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jun 2001 Total Posts : 2763 | Posted 1/23/2011 1:03 PM (GMT -6) |   | I could go with that? It's just that I wonder if a 24hr orgastic type experience that the triune God experiences in Godself can genuinely be empathetic towards the groanings of creation. As you say, maybe there is an over-emphasis on the orgastic experience which would mean that God's neighbour does grieve him, which is also to say that God experiences and appreciates that nice little back massage we give him (our worship).
Brandon
It is the purpose that makes strong the vow, but vows to every purpose must not hold.--A friend.
To love without love is slavery--Mother Teresa
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