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One Love
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   Posted 4/2/2011 5:50 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dang.  We need to get back to basics.  Check THIS out.
 
This is in the "Historicity of Jesus" wiki...
 
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Lucian, a second century Romano-Syrian satirist, who wrote in Greek, wrote:
 
"The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day — the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account… You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws.
 
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Now this is an ancient rhetorician and SATIRIST saying this.  He's not trying to put them in the best light.  He's just describing what he saw...and belittling along the way.
 
Isn't that just what Jesus talked about, right?
 
"By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."
 
Even the frank satirist Lucian couldn't dodge that reality. He could only scoff at it.  But at least they were DOING it.  Enough for Lucian to recognize and talk about it.
 
When would anyone classify modern evangelical Christians in the above way?  Yeah...sobering thought, huh? icon_smile_shock
 
We gotta get back to basics! 


Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Post Edited (One Love) : 4/2/2011 5:58:01 PM (GMT-5)

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Tom
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   Posted 4/2/2011 6:46 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
And how would skeptical onlookers describe Christian believers by in large today?

Yep.
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might-be-don
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   Posted 4/4/2011 11:22 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'd venture to say the skeptical onlookers would describe them the same way as Jesus would.


The world's perfect, wouldn't change a thing.
 

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