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BBBCanada
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   Posted 5/1/2011 10:10 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
U.S. reports say Osama bin Laden dead


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Lord of all creation, have mercy on us. For we are lost.
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   Posted 5/2/2011 1:13 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
David Fitch: "Warning: gleeful vengeance has never been a Christian virtue."


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Yet my former prof from Christ for the Nations once again:  https://antagoniz.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/bin-laden-dies-twice/  
 

"There is an even more pure jubilation ahead concerning  Bin Laden’s death and his being in HELL!"

"So rejoice oh righteous ones, Bin Laden not only is dead and in HELL,  he will experience the agonizing pain of dying a second time as he  absorbs the full and complete  wrath of God for eternity!"
 
 
 
 


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   Posted 5/2/2011 2:45 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
'Do Not Gloat' vs. 'Joy to the Righteous'
The verses most quoted on Twitter and Facebook after the news of the death of Osama bin Laden.

Here.

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Editor's note: President Barack Obama's news that al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was killed after a firefight in Abbottabad, Pakistan, sparked one of Twitter's heaviest usage periods ever, with more than 4,000 tweets a second. The event was even reported live on Twitter, with Donald Rumsfeld's chief of staff reportedly announcing the death to his followers before mainstream media outlets broke the story (though he credits "a connected network TV news producer" as his source).

Among Christians, social network streams were full of debate over whether to rejoice in bin Laden's death, with Bible verses quoted by both sides. Stephen Smith, whose OpenBible.info collects realtime data on Bible verse quotes on Facebook and Twitter, compiled this list of the most popular verses in the 12 hours after the news broke. (Links go to the most recent posts of those quoting that verse; quotes are from the 2011 edition of the NIV unless otherwise noted.)

1. Proverbs 24:17 "Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice."

2. Psalm 138:8 "The LORD will make PERFECT the things that concern me"(KJV). (NIV: "The LORD will vindicate me; your love, LORD, endures forever—do not abandon the works of your hands.") (Unrelated tweet by Rev Run.)

3. Proverbs 21:15 "When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers." (Rick Warren started this one):

4. Ezekiel 33:11 "Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?"

5. Ezekiel 18:23 "Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?"

6. Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, let us settle the matter," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool."

7. Proverbs 11:10 "When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices; when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy."

8. Proverbs 24:18 " … or the LORD will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them." (The popularity of this verse is due to it finishing the sentence begun by the #1 most popular verse.)

9. Proverbs 24:1 "Do not envy the wicked, do not desire their company;" (probably an effort to quote Proverbs 24:17)

10. Proverbs 28:5 "Evildoers do not understand what is right, but those who seek the LORD understand it fully."

11. Ezekiel 18:32 "For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!"

12. Romans 8:31 "What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?"

13. Romans 12:19 "Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord."

14. Psalm 27:14 "Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD."

15. Romans 10:9 "If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."

16. Joshua 1:9 Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go." (This verse is usually one of the most-popular verse on Twitter.)

17. Romans 10:15 "And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: 'How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!'"

18. Romans 13:4 "For the one in authority is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer." (Mark Driscoll accelerated this verse's popularity via his Facebook post.)

19. Psalm 68:5 "A father to the fatherless, a defender of widows, is God in his holy dwelling." (An unrelated tweet by Matt Redman.)

20. 2 Timothy 1:7 "For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline." (This is also a consistently popular verse on Twitter.)

21. Psalm 23:4 "Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me."

22. 2 Chronicles 7:14 "If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land."

23. Psalm 121:2 "My help comes from the LORD, the Maker of heaven and earth." (related to Alabama storms, also tweeted by Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber)

24. Proverbs 11:7 "When a wicked man dieth, his expectation shall perish: and the hope of unjust men perisheth" (KJV). (NIV: "Hopes placed in mortals die with them; all the promise of their power comes to nothing.")

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Notable absences were the Great Commandments, 1 Corinthians 13, and 1 John 4.

NEITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE even thought to mention the Great Commandments of Jesus, our Lord.

What does that mean, y'all?

I think Daniel's right.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on all of us sinners.


Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

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   Posted 5/2/2011 3:01 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
“But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,  bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either.  Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
 
“If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.  And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount.  But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.  Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful."
 


Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

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   Posted 5/2/2011 3:19 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thank you, Lord.

Always a remnant.

Luke 6:27

Mat 22:39

1 John 4:8


Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

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   Posted 5/2/2011 3:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." —MLK


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   Posted 5/2/2011 4:02 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Mark Driscoll: "Finished long day of gospel preaching to hear the glorious news that bin Laden is now dead, killed by CIA! Thank you soldiers who tracked him for a decade. Thank you Jesus for being His JUDGE...."

Can I even use the word "Christian" to describe myself anymore?

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Osama Bin Laden at the Nexus of God and Man's Justice


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   Posted 5/3/2011 10:12 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
By Jimmy Spencer Jr.

I'm not a pacifist—but I do not celebrate the death of another human.

Even Osama bin Laden.

I remember watching the riots and flag burning in parts of the MIddle East that took place after the 9/11 events. I remember feeling angry toward those people celebrating the deaths of my countrymen. I remember feeling anger toward the people that perpetrated the attacks on mothers and fathers and working class people across the country. I couldn't help but to think "what is wrong with those people that they really think that God is on their side?" I remember thinking "They actually think that this is how God demonstrates his favor—by killing the people who don't fit into our moral, political or religious agendas?”

...and here I sit again.

Watching my Facebook Wall 

filling up with American cheers and jeers 

"God is on our side!!"

"God's justice has been done!"

It made me cry a bit.

It makes me angry again.

Watching my Facebook friends, pastors and Christians strike their own chorus of revelry and revenge that somehow God's will has been done and He has acted for us. He has delivered justice for us. He has delivered revenge for us. He has delivered our enemies to us because He is good and just—and God is on our side.

Of course, the logical flaw is that everyone thinks this.

Humans on all sides of the ocean, and throughout all the centuries love it when we can wield God for our agenda. We find ourselves imitating the Middle East crowds who took to the streets on 9/11 shouting that justice has been done to our enemies. We echo the mantra of the Crusaders who shout "God Will's It!" as they charge their steeds into blood-soaked battles—so sure of God fighting for them.

We also imitate the first century Jews who 2000 years ago swarmed the Jerusalem city gates and shouted "Hoseanna" on this just recently passed Good Friday because they were so overjoyed that Jesus would finally conquer the godless Romans for them—proving that they, were indeed, most favored by God.

We still want Jesus to conquer our Romans for us don't we?

Jesus still weeps at our short sightedness.

I wonder if God fights for us now against our enemies? I wonder if God fought for those men who captured those planes and so assuredly carried out the will of God on 9/11? 

Whose bullets carry the blessings of God?

Whose death does God cheer?

A wise man once turned the religious and social world upside down when he said:  "love you enemies." Will I be brave enough to follow in His Way?

If this same wise man actually struggled and broke the cycle of death then God forgive me when I participate in the ancient lineage of the crowds who cheer not for the love of Jesus—but cheer the idea that Jesus fights for my revenge at the great cost of others. God forgive me when I cheer the death of my enemies and thereby perpetuate the cycle of death—the very thing Jesus came to abolish.

God forgive me when I find myself:

Amongst the crowd and at the gates

Cheering while Jesus weeps.


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   Posted 5/4/2011 12:08 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Perhaps the death of Osama Bin Laden has made this world more safe. I do not believe, however, that his death has made this world more beautiful.--An e-mail from a friend of Brian McClaren


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   Posted 5/7/2011 5:28 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
For those who think that the killinof OBL is "God's justice" you mght want to think again: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8498718/Church-concerns-grow-over-Osama-bin-Laden-killing.html


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   Posted 5/8/2011 2:14 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
For an array of perspectives (some I personally agree with more than others):
Just War and Osama bin Laden (cont.)


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   Posted 5/8/2011 12:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
N.T. Wright on Osama bin Laden's death


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   Posted 5/15/2011 7:27 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Osama bin Laden:  Heaven and Hell Questions
 
Kinda surprised to hear Mouw talk this way.


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   Posted 5/15/2011 8:16 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Considering the controversy that still exists concerning the connection between OBL and 9/11, a trial would have been interesting.
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   Posted 5/16/2011 6:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
His confessing to having orchestrated it leaves the world no doubt about his guilt. But a trial in abstentia at least would have been nice.

Tom


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   Posted 6/9/2011 2:22 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Greg tweeted about this today.


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