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Tom
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Posted 10/16/2011 2:08 PM (GMT -6)

Mark Driscoll last week:

“Some of you … God hates you. Some of you, God is sick of you. God is frustrated with you. God is wearied by you. God has suffered long enough with you. He doesn’t think you’re cute. He doesn’t think it’s funny. He doesn’t think your excuse is ‘meritous’. He doesn’t care if you compare yourself to someone worse than you. He hates them too. God hates, right now, personally, objectively hates some of you….”

Makes me sick to my stomach.

"The aesthetic value the world has for God is in expressing, not constituting, the aesthetic value God eternally finds within Godself." Greg Boyd

Similitude
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Posted 10/16/2011 3:07 PM (GMT -6)

I think UR is liberating in this respect. It increases, infinitely, the sense in which accountability itself can be a mode of love. It is so insomuch as it makes behavior modifiable in a rational way. If negative motivation is all that can motivate a person to act civilly in some specific way, e.g., love will motivate that way. Because a lesser of evils is better than the alternative.

In short, accountability is NOT the absence of love. It is a MODE of love--how much more so if UR is true. Because UR makes the most positive form of utilitarianism (the form where no one is ultimately worse off for negative motivation, and some or all are ultimately better off) doable and, therefore, certain.

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