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   Posted 11/17/2011 8:05 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Read for yourself.
 
You'll see what I mean. 
 
It's ironic, too: He's lapsed Jewish.


Expanding on his debut album's theme of ambivalence and conflicted feelings toward fame,[37] Drake's lyrics on Take Care detail failed romances, missed connections,[23] relationship with friends and family,[33] maintaining balance with growing wealth and fame, concerns about leading a hollow life, the passage of young adulthood,[37] and despondency.[28][32] The album's slow jam-styled tracks explore themes of loneliness, heartbreak, and mistrust.[31] The topic of women is prevalant on the album, with songs concerning past and potential lovers ("Marvins Room", "The Real Her"), and about revering ("Make Me Proud") and lavishing them ("We’ll Be Fine").[29] Juan Edgardo Rodriguez of No Ripcord denotes women as "the main force in his songs - he’s consciously aware about what it takes to love them, but simply decides to thrust aside the guidelines because he’s on an entirely different stratosphere from any female average joe."[34]

Music writers have interpreted the album's expositional content with respect to contemporary social climate.[26] Newsday's Glenn Gamboa views that Drake's "emotional self-doubt and realizations about [...] success", along with the album's melancholy mood, "captur[es] today's zeitgeist of uncertainty and diminishing expectations."[38] Music journalist Ann Powers cites Drake's "predicament — the inability to locate oneself within everyday power relations" as "one that's afflicted existential antiheroes throughout modernity."[26] Powers writes that his point of view is that of a "biracial upper middle-class kid [...] from a position of privilege that few rappers would occupy", and views his subject matter as culturally significant, commenting that "his melancholia is that of the overly sated [...] But Drake's relentless focus on the point where money empties out happiness isn't merely autobiographical. It's emblematic of our moment of crashed markets and occupied streets, and it speaks to a generation beginning to question whether the All-American, celebrity-endorsed credit card lifestyle will make them anything but bankrupt."[26] Ryan Dombal of Pitchfork Media compares his "unrepentant navel-gazing and obsession with lost love" to Marvin Gaye's 1978 album Here, My Dear, adding that Drake's "penchant for poetic oversharing" makes him "an apt avatar" for the Information Age.[23]

Drake's songwriting is characterized by wistful introspection,[30] existential contemplation,[33] and minimal boasting,[32] with lyrics that convey frankness,[23] vulnerability, melancholia, and narcissism.[31][39] Music writer Greg Kot comments that Drake does not "indulge in the macho poses that have dominated mainstream hip-hop for decades, and blur[s] the line between singing and rhyming", adding that he "makes his rhymes sound conversational, matter of fact, like he’s talking to the listener one-one-one".[32] Tim Sendra of Allmusic comments that the album's "introspective tone [...] is only rarely punctured by aggressive tracks, boasts, and/or come-ons."[28] Drake's persona on the songs shows traits of sincerity, self-doubt, regret, passive-aggressiveness,[26] and self-absorption.[31][32] Kazeem Famuyide of The Source explains his conflicted persona on the album as being "arrogant enough to know his place as one of the most successful artist in hip-hop, and comfortable enough to realize his own faults in his personal life."[40] Jon Dolan of Rolling Stone writes that Drake "collaps[es] many moods – arrogance, sadness, tenderness and self-pity – into one vast, squish-souled emotion."[25] Kevin Ritchie of NOW notes "an overwhelming sense of alienation, and sadness" on Take Care, calling it "an idiosyncratic, aggressively self-conscious and occasionally sentimental album, one that falls somewhere between languid, finger-snapping R&B and hip-hop braggadocio."[30]


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   Posted 11/17/2011 8:08 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
He's doing it big for 25 years of age.  At the same time, Drake is the perfect example of a person searching for eternity in the existential...and having "it all" but finding it inescapably empty. So much so that it can't HELP but to come out in his art...because his art is so egocentrically expressed.  He artistically, breathtakingly shows the desolation that is his soul...simply because he is narcissistic, talented, and as he himself says..."doesn't give a fu$@." 

And God (or simple authentic self-transcendence) is NO WHERE in dude's thoughts.

You can listen to his music and see that.

The stories Drake tells on this album, even more so than earlier songs, are so rooted in his own experience I don't see how anyone — regardless of this whole subject-object thing — could put themselves in his shoes. We are the people Drake is singing about. We don't have a lot of power here. Which obviously makes it less OK how often dude (and guests) use the word "bitch."

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Drake uses conversational language and rhymes about emotional ambivalence, romantic prevarication and his trust issues. I can't applaud him making a career out of laying those particular cards on the table; doing so hasn't made him treat anyone any better, at least according to him.

But that gets me back to what I was saying before — about the position Drake puts his listeners in when he acts all vulnerable sitting in a penthouse with a publicist right beside him. Despite Take Care's womblike production, I can't identify with Drake – and some of that is because I don't want to. If I did I'd have $25 million and still not be satisfied. I'd be the greatest, but I'd be lonely.


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   Posted 11/17/2011 8:19 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Drake is also an excellent example of someone trapped in the "biological hypostasis".

Take away...
1) Money/Fame/Success
2) Women
3) Toronto
4) His Mother and Uncle (Toronto roots)
5) 40, October's Very Own, All Things Fresh (his friends)
6) His Father and Memphis, Tennesee (southern roots)
7) Weed and Lean (drugs)

And you have no Drake. Period.
 
I'm talking every song.

He's an amalgam of the life experiences he's had and his own interpretation of those experiences. The perfect example of a "prosopon" falling into "individuality".


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   Posted 11/17/2011 2:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Merton...

"Every one of us is shadowed by an illusory person: a false self. This is the man I want myself to be but who cannot exist because God does not know anything about him. And to be unknown of God is altogether too much privacy. My false and private self is the one who wants to exist outside the reach of God's will and God's love . . . outside of reality and outside of life. And such a self cannot help but be an illusion. For most people in the world, there is no greater subjective reality than this false self of theirs, which cannot exist. A life devoted to the cult of this shadow is what is called a life of sin."

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"All sin starts from the assumption that my false self, the self that exists only in my own egocentric desires, is the fundamental reality to which everything else is ordered. There I use up my life in the desire for pleasures and the thirst for experience, for power, honor, knowledge and love to clothe this false self and construct its nothingness into something objectively real. And I wind experiences around myself and cover myself with pleasures and glory like bandages in order to make myself perceptible to myself and to the world, as if I were an invisible body that could become visible only when something visible covered its surface."

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"The image of winding oneself round like a mummy, with whatever one can control, dominate, take to oneself and take glory in, sharpens the irony of our scramble to defy our true selves to emerge. It calls to mind, too, the scathing condemnation Jesus laid upon the 'hypocrites' of His day, who were not what they seemed, buy were full of 'dead men's bones and all uncleanness' (Mt 23:27). Such an indictment is leveled at ourselves as we covet our illusions of grandeur, abuse our gifts and use others, objectifying them like stars in our own constellation, which must revolve in their fixed orbits about the main star, of course—ourselves. 'We become the center and God somehow recedes to an invisible fringe. Others become real to the extent they become significant others to the designs our our own ego. And in this process the all of God dies in us and the sterile nothingness of our desires becomes our God'. The false self, 'since it intuits that it is but a shadow, that it is nothing, begins to convince itself that it is what it does'."

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"Thus the illusory self lives out its lie, abusing its gifts, treating other subjects as objects, conveniently arranged like furnishings in one's room. It finds nothing but bitterness, unhappiness and exhaustion from seeking fulfillment in this profound alienation of the heart from it roots in mystery."


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   Posted 12/30/2011 2:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
These are the lyrics to one of the most listened to songs of right now. Seriously.

By Drake...


I might be too strung out on compliments, Overdosed on confidence
Started not to give a fu-k, and stop fearing the consequence
Drinking every night, because we drink to my accomplishments
Faded way too long, I'm floating in and out of consciousness

And they saying I'm back, I agree with that
I just take my time with all this sh-t, I still believe in that
I had someone tell me I fell off, ooh I needed that
And they want to see me pick back up, well, where'd I leave it at

I know I exaggerated things now I got it like that
Tuck my napkin in my shirt, cause I'm just mobbin like that
You know good and well that you don't want a problem like that
You gone make someone around me catch a body like that
 
No, don't do it, please don't do it
Cause one of us goes in, then we all go through it
Drizzy got the money, so Drizzy gone pay
Those my brothers I ain't even gotta say it
That's just something they know
 

[Chorus]
They know, they know, they know
 
They know, they know, they know
 
They know, they know, they know
 
Yeah, they know, yeah
 
That the real is on the rise, fu-- them other guys
I even gave them a chance to decide, now it's something they know
 
They know, they know, they know
 

[Verse 2]
Yeah, I be yelling out money over everything, money on my mind
Then she want to ask when it got so empty
Tell her I apologize, it happened over time 
She says they miss the old Drake, girl don't tempt me

If they don't get it, they'll be over you
That new shit that you got is overdue
You better do what you supposed to do
I'm like why I got to be all that but still I can't deny the fact
 
That it's true, listening to you expressing all them feelings
Soap opera rappers, all these niggas sound like All My Children
And that's who you thinking is 'bout to come and make a killing
I guess it really is just me, myself, and all my millions
 
You know that they ain't even got it like that
You gonna hype me up and make me touch a body like that
Cause I live for this, it isn't just a hobby like that
When they get my sh&t and play it, I ain't even got to say it, they know
 

[Chorus]
They know, they know, they know
 
They know, they know, they know
 
They know, they know, they know
 
Yeah, they know, yeah
 
That the real is on the rise, fu-- them other guys
I even gave them a chance to decide, now it's something they know
 
They know, they know, they know
 

[Verse 3]
I be yelling out money over everything, money on my mind
 
(Mind, mind, mind)
 
Tell them I apologize, It happened over time
(Time, time, time, time)
 
They know


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   Posted 12/30/2011 2:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Lyrics for "Crew Love"

Smoking weed under star projectors
I guess we'll never know what Harvard gets us
But seeing my family have it all
Took the place of that desire for diplomas on the wall

And really, I think I like who I'm becoming
There's times where I might do it just to do it like it's nothing
There's times when I might blow like 50k on a vacation
For all my soldiers just to see the looks on all they faces, all it took was patience

I got a lotta friends to come up off the strip for me
The same ones that'll come up off the hip for me
The realest niggas say your lyrics do sh*t for me
I told my story, then made history

Tell them I'mma need reservations for 20
I've never really been one for the preservation of money, nah
Much rather spend it all while I'm breathing
That OVO and that XO is everything you believe in, I know


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   Posted 12/30/2011 2:29 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Drake is supposedly Jewish. He should know better than this.

But he sure does give an excellent inside description of the futility of attempting to experience eternity in the things of this world. He shows what the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life get you.

A hollow soul.

Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 16:8

The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecclesiastes 12:13


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I mean think about it. How would you like to essentially "bare your soul" artistically...and nothing but self-absorbed, culture-reflective nothingness and meloncholia come out? Wow...
 
Drake's songwriting is characterized by wistful introspection, existential contemplation, and minimal boasting, with lyrics that convey frankness, vulnerability, melancholia, and narcissism. Andy Gill of The Independent writes that he "eschews anger or threat for a weariness shadowed by wistful regret." Music journalist Greg Kot comments that Drake does not "indulge in the macho poses that have dominated mainstream hip-hop for decades, and blurs the line between singing and rhyming", adding that he "makes his rhymes sound conversational, matter of fact, like he’s talking to the listener one-one-one". Tim Sendra of Allmusic notes that his "introspective tone [...] is only rarely punctured by aggressive tracks, boasts, and/or come-ons." Drake's persona on songs shows traits of sincerity, self-doubt, regret, passive-aggressiveness, and self-absorption. Kazeem Famuyide of The Source explains his conflicted persona as being "arrogant enough to know his place as one of the most successful artist in hip-hop, and comfortable enough to realize his own faults in his personal life."Jon Dolan of Rolling Stone writes that Drake "collaps[es] many moods – arrogance, sadness, tenderness and self-pity – into one vast, squish-souled emotion." Kevin Ritchie of NOW notes "an overwhelming sense of alienation, and sadness" on Take Care, calling it "an idiosyncratic, aggressively self-conscious and occasionally sentimental album".
 
But that's what's so sad.  The reason that Drake is so successful is because he is so REPRESENTATIVE of the empty persepctive of a lot of Western young adults.  They "get" him even when he's being his most self -absorbed...and he knows that.
 
Drake's "The Ride"
 
You won’t feel me until everybody
Say they love you, but it’s not love
And your suit is oxblood
And the girl you fu--ing hates you
And your friends faded off shots of
What you ordered
Then forget about the game that you on top of
Your famous girlfriend's ass getting
Thicker than the plot does
And when you forget it, that's when she pop up
And you got a drop but you ride around with the top up
Or three SUVs for niggas dressed like refugees
And deal with the questions
about all your excessive needs
And you do dinners at French Laundry in Napa Valley
Scallops and glasses of Dolce
That sh-t's right up your alley
You see a girl and you ask about her
Bi--hes smiling at you, it must be happy hour
They put the cloth across your lap soon as you sat down
It’s feeling like you own every place you choose to be at now
Walking through airport security with your hat down
Intead of getting a pat down, they just keep on
Saying that they feel you, nigga
 
[Hook: The Weeknd]
I’ve been faded too long
 
[Verse 2]
You won't feel me til you want it
So bad you tell yourself you’re in it
And tell the world around you
That your paperwork is finished
And steal your mother's debit cards
So you maintain an image
And ride around in overpriced
Rental cars that ain't tinted
You need a minute? You got it
You know its real when your
Latest nights are your greatest nights
The sun is up when you get home, that's just a way of life
Apartment 1503: some couches and paintings
When you record with 2 others that want the same things
It start to feel better than home feels
And so you up there every night, you swear you getting close
That champagne money was for gas and phone bills
But sh-t, you bout to spend it on what matters most
You drop a couple songs in hopes that you could beat a nigga
And come out every night to let the city see they nigga
Telling stories that nobody relate to
And even though they hate you
They just keep on telling you they feel you, nigga
 
[Hook]
 
[Verse 3]
I haven't been inside Terminal 1 and 3 in so long
I’m driving right up to it now
Make sure you got your coat on
That runway can be cold especially after summer's rolled on
And all you knew is alcohol and city lights and slow songs
For four months out the year, it's got you asking whats good at home
What's good at home?
The same hoes are still at it, I shoulda known
My young niggas popping M’s and sipping dirty jones
Problem children that all be repping October's Own
Brand new girl and she still growing
Brand new titties, stitches still showing
Yeah, and she just praying that it heals good
I’m bout to fu-- and I’m just praying that it feels good
I really don’t know much but, sh-t, I know a secret
They say more money more problems, my nigga don’t believe it
I mean, sure, there’s some bills and taxes I’m still evading
But I blew six million on myself and I feel amazing
Young money maker, season ticketholder
Season switching over
I come through them bit-hes
Still scorching as if I didn’t notice
You niggas getting older, I see no threat in Yoda
I’m out here messing over the lives of these niggas
That couldn’t fu-k with my freshman floater (flow ta)
Look at that fu--ing chip on your nephew's shoulder
My sophomore, they was all for it, they all saw it
My juniors and senior will only get meaner
Take care, nigga
 
[Hook]

 


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"Thus the illusory self lives out its lie, abusing its gifts, treating other subjects as objects, conveniently arranged like furnishings in one's room. It finds nothing but bitterness, unhappiness and exhaustion from seeking fulfillment in this profound alienation of the heart from it roots in mystery."
--Thomas Merton
 
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Drake's Sophomore Album 'Take Care' Goes Platinum
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Hey D...looking at some of Drakes stuff that you posted, its plain and obvious that he's narcisstic.  Now, yesterday I was reading some comments on a facebook page that some Christians were making.  The topic was sex and how THEY felt about Christian attitudes and evangelical Christian culture's solution to premarital sex.  One comment actually said this: 

"And I'm sorry, but I read XXXX's "I've gained much victory over that temptation with time as I've grown over the years in my faith" as "I've managed, with practice, to repress the parts of my natural psychology and physiology that are deemed unacceptable by the religion I follow." This is my BIGGEST problem with Christianity...the way it sets up the human, the natural, AGAINST the divine. It creates a battle that is unnecessary and harmful. It corrupts the beauty of the wholeness of life with the ultimatum to cut oneself to pieces, then to set those pieces against each other and have them fight to the death. See, no matter which side wins ("spirit" or "flesh") you have killed a part of yourself in the process. It is awful."

I guess the question I have has to do with this "repression."  I really don't know if someone who wants to participate in the Divine life of God can really get away without some level of "repression" and not being "true to themselves."  Do you know what I'm saying?  I'm not saying, "repression for repression's sake" but if any of the conversations that we've had over the years about the solidification towards evil and good and the more "yes" we say to these decisions (again, for good or evil), some repression has to count for something right?  In one sense I agree with the above quote because evangelicalism will set up "false parameters" that they deem acceptable and non-acceptable.  But there is something to say, the practice of fasting in which we "deny ourselves" through certain habits because they seem to be part and parcel of our false self.  Is my question making sense? 

 


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Yes. Well...I don't know if REPRESSION is good. But SUBLIMATION--via living the Spirit-death-life--is good.

In psychology, sublimation is a mature type of defence mechanism where socially unacceptable impulses or idealizations are consciously transformed into socially acceptable actions or behaviour, possibly converting the initial impulse in the long term. According to Wade and Tavris, sublimation is when displacement "serves a higher cultural or socially useful purpose, as in the creation of art or inventions.

As a matter of fact, many of the mystical traditions talks about transmuting sexual energy into creative, unifying energy in one's knowledge of the divine.  Basically we are talking about the intensifying of merely human "eros" into the divine/human "eros"

Defense mechanisms


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Here's a question:

Given what we've talked about on this board with respect to fully actualizing one's own personhood...

...is Aubrey Drake Graham doing that?

Is he a "person" or merely an "individual"?   I'd say the latter.
 
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?"

Yeah...


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Hmmm...thinking more about the quote...

"And I'm sorry, but I read XXXX's "I've gained much victory over that temptation with time as I've grown over the years in my faith" as "I've managed, with practice, to repress the parts of my natural psychology and physiology that are deemed unacceptable by the religion I follow." This is my BIGGEST problem with Christianity...the way it sets up the human, the natural, AGAINST the divine. It creates a battle that is unnecessary and harmful. It corrupts the beauty of the wholeness of life with the ultimatum to cut oneself to pieces, then to set those pieces against each other and have them fight to the death. See, no matter which side wins ("spirit" or "flesh" ) you have killed a part of yourself in the process. It is awful."

1) One would have to fundamentally misunderstand the INCARNATION (and the nature of humanity itself) to say this, it would seem to me.

2) The battle of faith is NOT to set the human AGAINST the Divine...but to make the human TRANSPARENT to the Divine, per it's logos.


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Well, I think he is an individual given everything he is singing and rapping about.  I remember in my teenage years people who were by-products of the 60's sexual revolution become intensely upset with Christianity and Christians because they thought it was basically a religion of repression.  But I've come to see it more in terms of sublimation over time.  That is, it seems to be the difference between burying impulses and normalizing them and refocusing them towards the Good.  I'm using sexual impulses as an example, but this could pretty much go for just about anything, ie., food.  This is why I feel sorry for folk like Drake, because as he describes it, "When did he fall off?" and "When did it get so empty?"  Check out the death section of this guy:
 


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What do you mean EXACTLY when you say, "...make the human TRANSPARENT to the Divine." To see ourselves in Truth as God sees us?


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Brandon:
What do you mean EXACTLY when you say, "...make the human TRANSPARENT to the Divine." To see ourselves in Truth as God sees us?

Yes, Brandon. Simply, humanity truly acts theophanically and eucharistically; Via the Holy Spirit, humanity sees itself from God's perspective.  Humanity is INCOMPLETE without experienced direct reception of existence from the Uncreated Spirit. That sense of utter dependence that you were talking about earlier.


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It's it's essence:

It's about associating the "brute fact" of our rational, emotional, and volitive experience with loving, benelovence supporting that very experience...and the natural response to the "giftedness" of our very being. Humanity is incomplete to the extent it doesn't have it's "world compositions" grounded in that immanent, unifying, yet transcendent, incommunicable experience.
 
Speaking biblically, humanity is incomplete without continuously "breathing" the Creator Spirit of God.
 
Kinda what Denys Turner was talking about in that Atheism Tapes video Tom posted elsewhere.

Does this make sense?


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Part of Drake's problem I think...is that he basically doesn't believe in God. His particular stance is Y.O.L.O. (The Motto)...

Now she want a photo, you already know, though
"You Only Live Once": that's the motto nigga, YOLO
And we bout it every day, every day, every day
Like we sittin on the bench, nigga, we don't really play
Every day, every day, fu-k what anybody say
Can't seem 'em cause the money in the way, real nigga, what's up?

He'd rather "spend it all while he's breathin", right? Cause he doesn't KNOW if there's an afterlife. I've heard Birdman say exactly the same thing.

Basically, it's a over-materialism/consumerism ala ghetto nihilism.  I've seen this with Cash Money ever since 1999.  Baby (Birdman) Williams has always talked about living in excess because you don't know how long your gonna live.


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   Posted 12/30/2011 4:09 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, that's makes sense, but I'm thinking about particular examples.


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   Posted 12/30/2011 4:11 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well Drake IS breathing, he's just inhaling the wrong stuff.  <---THAT should be a signature somewhere.  biggrin


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   Posted 12/30/2011 4:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's what so crazy.

Lil Wayne (and Cash Money Records) actually ORIGINATED the term "bling" in the song "Bling, Bling" in 1999.

It's ACTUALLY in the dictionary now because it's been used so much.

Our culture is crazy.

But what I'm saying is this: anyone who knew Birdman, Lil Wayne and Cash Money would KNOW that they exalt money over EVERYTHING (Exactly what Drake quotes).  So when Drake ends up placing money over all relationships...it shouldn't be a major stretch to see how that could happen.

Money on my mind
Money on my mind
Money on my mind
Money money on my mind
Money on my mind
Money on my mind
Money money on my mind
So money is all I think of

--Lil Wayne


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   Posted 12/30/2011 4:21 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICUHk5XN64c
 
 

To be honest, I can understand that over-materialism/consumerism ala ghetto nihilism perspective. When I was in college and an agnostic (around 1993-1994), it was "money, hoes, and clothes...all a nigga knows."

Jesus broke me OUT of that.

Thank you for saving me, Jesus! icon_bandit


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   Posted 12/30/2011 4:35 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Wow...those were just as bad as this one:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe6IVSwgWYI&feature=fvwp&NR=1


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   Posted 12/30/2011 4:42 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yeah. I remember seeing that one. Crazy.

I remember sometimes early in ministry being SOOOOOOO jealous of stuff like that. When I saw others with money, clothes, and all that, I'm talking I'd have MAD envy. I really started to regret going into ministry and giving up my previous lucrative career path.  I wanted money, power, and influence...definitely most of my adolescent and young adult life.

Looking at things now, I see how foolish that was.


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   Posted 12/30/2011 5:06 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
From here...

"The inactivity of the noetic faculty (not logic) is the essence of man's fall. The non-function, or limited function of the mental power, and its confusion with the function of the brain or the body, enslaves man in stress and the environment and materialism, focusing his care at his body. In this way, man "worships the creation, rather than the Creator" and the immediate consequence is the dismantling of the authenticity in his relations, the individualization, antisocial attitudes, self deification - idolization of himself. The use of God and fellow people for securing personal safety and happiness.

After healing the illness of the heart, man returns to the true sociability. The clear heart receives the enlightment of the Holy Spirit. At this stage, the self-centered man's love becomes self-forgetfull love from God. Without the enlightment from God, our love cannot surpass our self-centered attitude, our imperfection. It remains imperfect and false. Through the enlightment, man becomes temple of the Holy Spirit, true and spiritual."


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