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One Love
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Posted 6/11/2012 2:20 PM (GMT -6)

First the Travon thing, now this. Note the comments.

My favorite so far is from Voice of Truth:

...I'm afraid the numbers are simply not on our side, so we need a very practical approach to resolving this deadly dilemma. I certainly understand your sentiment and anger with this as I am outraged, but we will ultimately need an approach that takes into account our oppressed condition. We have plenty of examples of our people in the past responding to hate with angry violence (i.e., Nat Turner, Haiti in 1803, etc), but now we must learn from the past and improve on their efforts in a more successful way.

MLK was and IS right.

Watch and pray.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

One Love
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Posted 6/11/2012 2:23 PM (GMT -6)

Another one from Voice of Truth:

this is a public service announcement to all my younger brothers in our community (and please be sure to tell as many young brothers in the hood this): please don't resist in any way. I know it's hard, and sometimes some of us hate authority with a passion, but it is better to be alive and defend yourself in court than to be right but dead in a casket! Too many police officers are on edge and trigger happy, and more than a few are racist, so don't give them a reason to kill you. I say this out of love, and the Lord loves you when no one else seems to love you.

I learned this a LOOOOOOONG time ago on the backroads of central Texas. And I do it-having this reasoning in mind-...to...this...day.

Yes...

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Swiftthinker
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Posted 6/21/2012 12:34 PM (GMT -6)

When we become Christians we are “New Creatures in Christ” and our old man “our culture, our color, our education, our nationalism, our self pride, our sin” is gone. We know how the world handles “other” no matter if it is “other religions, other colors, other sexes, or other people groups”. We should not be surprised! The world is in Sin and Death. We as Christians need to grow up and walk in God's kingdom and learn His ways. That is there are no more Whites, no more Blacks, no more “Other”, just God's elect.

Peace,

Swiftthinker

One Love
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Posted 6/21/2012 6:21 PM (GMT -6)

Greetings, Swiftthinker. Welcome.

Just a thought. I don't think Paul ceases recognizing social realities in which he participated while being in Christ. In other words, I believe that Paul didn't give up all claim to his Roman citizenship or Israelite heritage in Christ. I also don't think he denied the oppressive realities of being under Roman rule. Same idea applies, I think.

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Swiftthinker
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Posted 6/22/2012 10:49 AM (GMT -6)

Hello One Loved,

If we look at the statistical crime rates in our American cities, you will notice that there is more Black on White violence than White on Black. Blacks for whatever reason (maybe poverty of soul) have a mind set of “rebellion” towards the “system”. This mindset has been propagated for a long time in Black culture by the “entertainment” centers of our society. And to a large extent this mind set has also emerged in the Black church.

This is why as a Christian, I would rather rise above the “culture” and live in a Kingdom mindset. Looking at people not as a Black, White, or Asian, but as either Christian or Sinner. Those who have Jesus as their King and those who still live in rebellion.

If we (Christians) follow this current American culture or it's subcultures and let them dictate our “mind set”, we will find ourselves in a cauldron that will divide us Christians in ways that are not Biblical. Let us then ponder what Paul said:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

One Love
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Posted 7/6/2012 2:43 PM (GMT -6)

For Swiftthinker.

Whites tend to hold a favorable opinion of the police, favor aggressive law enforcement, and are skeptical of criticisms of the police. There is a racial dimension to this orientation. Many Whites view Blacks as inclined to criminal or violent behavior (Swigert and Farrell 1976; Weitzer 2000; cf. Hurwitz and Peffley 1997).

hmmm...

" Blacks for whatever reason (maybe poverty of soul) have a mind set of “rebellion” towards the “system”. This mindset has been propagated for a long time in Black culture by the “entertainment” centers of our society. And to a large extent this mind set has also emerged in the Black church. "

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

Post Edited (One Love) : 7/6/2012 2:56:02 PM (GMT-5)

Similitude
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Posted 7/6/2012 3:29 PM (GMT -6)

I have both reactions to police. They are not as problematic as the alternative (no police), but they are far from being rule-abiding as a whole. As such, I think we ought to accept the validity of their existence while constantly working for the highest level of professionalism we can get out of them. That will include the fair use of both positive and negative incentives.

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