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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/2/2004 6:05 PM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/4/2004 1:19 AM (GMT -6) |   | Something that is worth pausing to consider is just WHEN and WHERE the passion/suffering of Christ Jesus began. It began in the womb of his mother Mary. It continued while John lept in his mother Elizabeth's womb in recongnition of his divinity. His passion continued while the angels sang to the shepherds. When two turtle-doves were offered at the temple. More than thirty years he suffered. Then dying he conquered death by his death. THEN he proclaimed liberty to captives. And he rose from the dead. And he ascended to heaven.
And, in the words of the Nicene Creed: "I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life everlasting." | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/10/2004 12:34 PM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Originally posted by BBBCanada
POW,
That was an EXCELLENT article. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Thanks, B!
It appears to be drawn from two other article she wrote, which are on her site. One is long, and has some deep ideas. The other is nice and to the point -- and with the current movie she drew most wholely from the second. HERE are LINKS to them.
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/10/2004 12:43 PM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/11/2004 11:53 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Originally posted by BBBCanada
POW,
I looked at her essay on sin as infection or infraction. I will definitely read the others. Also, I remember her from a few years ago when she wrote in Christianity Today Magazine on abortion. I thought to myself, "This is one of the best articles that I read on abortion!" Then I come to find out that this is the same person. I REALLY like a lot of her stuff. Hey, do you know if Franky Schaeffer has a website? I tried to find it on the internet yesterday, but to no avail. Have you got anything on him?
I think Franky's site is down. But I really don't know. He seems typical of converts to anything--zealous to the point of embarasing those cradle-born. (My brother-in-law's wife was born into an Orthodox home; so he is in an ethnic church, and even can do large parts of the service in Old-Slavonic.) Scheaffer seems to have carried with him the dis-ease that he had as a Reformed Christian, and his dad seemed to have. And he seemed to want to complain just because that's what he likes doing.
Matthew's Green seems different:
I think that if you look into Orthodoxy you owe it to yourself to know some "ethnics" who are just in love with God, and not with the "newest thing." | | Back to Top | | |
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/13/2004 4:02 AM (GMT -6) |   | A quick (and shortened) version of another review (by Hopko) on Gibson's film:
The varied scriptural testimonies to the Christ and his shameful death by crucifixion . . . are synthesized and explained by Christians of orthodox traditions in three inseparable ways that inform and illumine each other.
- The scriptural Christ is first of all God’s final prophet who speaks God’s final word.
- The scriptural Christ is also God’s final highpriest, not in Aaron’s line, but appointed by God according to the order of Melchisedek."
- The scriptural Christ, finally, is God’s last king who accomplishes God’s ultimate victory for humanity and the whole of creation through his crucifixion.
In this reading of the Bible, the Christ had to refuse the temptations of earthly power, prestige, position, possessions and pleasures. He had to be poor, meek, humble, lowly of heart and scorned by men. He had to die the shameful death of crucifixion at the hands of sinners for the sake of sinners whose wickedness is more often miserable, banal and pathetic than it is violent, spectacular and dramatic. We should remember, in this regard, that crucifixion was a common occurrence in Judea in Jesus’ time. And we should also recall that according to the first Christian writings the rejection of Jesus by both Jews and Gentiles was not his crucifixion. It was rather, and still remains, the rejection of the gospel of his theanthropic lordship manifested in his prophetic word, his priestly sacrifice and his royal victory on the cross. Some people saw all this in Mel Gibson’s eerie and violent film. I regret to say that I failed to do so.
LINK: www.oca.org/pages/news/news_printable.asp?ID=490
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Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 3/13/2004 8:28 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Originally posted by BBBCanada
Franky wrote, "Sham Pearls for Real Swine" (May 1990) with his father. I have that book. A review in CT Magazine said this about Franky and this book: "He's STILL angry."
Related: www.antiochian.org/midwest/Articles/TheProtestantConvert%20.htm
quote: Dr. David Ford, a professor at St. Tikhon Orthodox Seminary, has written a set of guidelines that detail the characteristics of the sectarian spirit in Orthodoxy. These characteristics can be briefly summarized as follows:
_ withdrawal from the wider Orthodox community in the name of “purity;”
_ “circling the wagons” against perceived enemies and the non-Orthodox;
_ overemphasis on some aspects of practice/doctrine and legalism;
_ deficiencies of love and trust that lead to further fragmentation.
This sectarian spirit is hardly a new thing. Indeed, we see in St. Paul’s letter that it was already present within twenty years of the Resurrection! In the centuries since St. Paul wrote to the Galatians, many groups have chosen to separate themselves from canonical Orthodoxy over issues of doctrinal purity, moral purity, or practice: for example, the Montanists, Encratites, Novatianists, and Donatists in the early centuries of the Church. Today, we see converts leaving the Church over similar issues. Why does sectarianism continue to be such a strong temptation for some converts?
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