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|  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 6/5/2004 12:59 PM (GMT -6) |   | QUOTES:
quote: MSNBC -- Here is a selection of some of those phrases ¡Xsome that made Reagan famous and others that he made famous. ¡¥One for the Gipper¡¦"Someday when things are tough, maybe you can ask the boys to go in there and win just one for the Gipper." ¡XPortraying football player George Gipp in the film ¡§Knute Rockne, All American,¡¨ 1940
'Shining city on a hill' Let us resolve tonight that young Americans will always ... find there a city of hope in a country that is free.... And let us resolve they will say of our day and our generation, we did keep the faith with our God, that we did act worthy of ourselves, that we did protect and pass on lovingly that shining city on a hill." ¡X Election Eve speech, Nov. 3, 1980
¡¥We have piled deficit upon deficit¡¦"For decades, we have piled deficit upon deficit, mortgaging our future and our children's future for the temporary convenience of the present. To continue this long trend is to guarantee tremendous social, cultural, political, and economic upheavals. You and I, as individuals, can, by borrowing, live beyond our means, but for only a limited period of time. Why, then, should we think that collectively, as a nation, we are not bound by that same limitation?" ¡XInaugural address, Jan. 20, 1981
¡¥Tear down this wall¡¦ ¡§If you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here, to this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.¡¨ ¡XSpeech at the Berlin Wall, June 12, 1987
¡¥Grown beyond the consent of the governed¡¦"We are a nation that has a government ¡X not the other way around. And this makes us special among the nations of the Earth. Our government has no power except that granted it by the people. It is time to check and reverse the growth of government which shows signs of having grown beyond the consent of the governed." ¡XInaugural address, Jan. 20, 1981
¡¥A special interest group that has been too long neglected¡¦"We hear much of special interest groups. Our concern must be for a special interest group that has been too long neglected.
"It knows no sectional boundaries or ethnic and racial divisions, and it crosses political party lines. It is made up of men and women who raise our food, patrol our streets, man our mines and our factories, teach our children, keep our homes, and heal us when we are sick¡Xprofessionals, industrialists, shopkeepers, clerks, cabbies, and truck drivers.
"They are, in short, 'We the people,' this breed called Americans." ¡XInaugural address, Jan. 20, 1981
¡¥I forgot to duck¡¦"Honey, I forgot to duck." ¡X 1981, Reagan to his wife, as he recovered gunshot wounds after an assassination attempt by John Hinckley on March 30, 1981
¡¥A time of reckoning¡¦"An almost unbroken 50 years of deficit spending has finally brought us to a time of reckoning. We have come to a turning point, a moment for hard decisions. I have asked the Cabinet and my staff a question, and now I put the same question to all of you: If not us, who? And if not now, when? It must be done by all of us going forward with a program aimed at reaching a balanced budget. We can then begin reducing the national debt." ¡XSecond inaugural address, Jan. 21, 1985
¡¥Render nuclear weapons obsolete¡¦"For decades, we and the Soviets have lived under the threat of mutual assured destruction; if either resorted to the use of nuclear weapons, the other could retaliate and destroy the one who had started it. Is there either logic or morality in believing that if one side threatens to kill tens of millions of our people, our only recourse is to threaten killing tens of millions of theirs?
"I have approved a research program to find, if we can, a security shield that would destroy nuclear missiles before they reach their target. It wouldn't kill people, it would destroy weapons. It wouldn't militarize space, it would help demilitarize the arsenals of Earth. It would render nuclear weapons obsolete." ¡XSecond inaugural address, Jan. 21, 1985
¡¥Whatever else history may say¡¦ ¡§Whatever else history may say about me when I'm gone, I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears....
¡§May all of you as Americans never forget your heroic origins, never fail to seek divine guidance and never lose your natural, God-given optimism.¡¨ ¡XSpeech to Republican National Convention, Aug. 17, 1992
¡¥Go ahead, make my day¡¦"I have only one thing to say to the tax increasers: Go ahead, make my day." ¡XMarch 13, 1985, in a speech threatening to veto legislation raising taxes.
¡¥You don't become president of the United States¡¦"When people tell me I became president on January 20, 1981, I feel I have to correct them. You don't become president of the United States. You are given temporary custody of an institution called the presidency, which belongs to our people." ¡X Address to the Republican national convention. Aug. 15, 1988
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  |  feelinahole Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2004 Total Posts : 754 | Posted 6/7/2004 9:36 AM (GMT -6) |   | | DLW: Nobody said he was. Let sleeping dogs lie... | | Back to Top | | |
 |  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 6/7/2004 5:29 PM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Originally posted by DLW
I post in my blog(yes, I have a blog now.) about how apparently Reagan relied on astrology for his major decision-making. http://wetzell.blogspot.com/
He wasn't exactly an OVTheist.
dlw
His wife, Nancy, relied on that, especially after his being shot, to decide on DAYS to do things, NOT the WHAT of decisions, as you seem to say above.
And far from it, his beliefs and commitments were as firm in bearing (nautical, for pointing in a consistant direction) as you will find in Presidents!
I disliked what Nancy was doing, and the whole world new about it when Schultz told the press. But, DLW, I also dislike what you seemed to be implying.
(Sorry, no time for blog reading... I'm traveling the country and have to move on.) | | Back to Top | | |
  |  feelinahole Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2004 Total Posts : 754 | Posted 6/9/2004 10:38 AM (GMT -6) |   | | Regardless of what "mold" RR fit (and coming from you DLW, considering your lack of love toward GWB, I would be hard pressed to find anything reliable from you about a conservative), I find it rude to judge a person while their body is still warm. May God have mercy on ALL our souls. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  phil_five Registered Member
 Date Joined Feb 2003 Total Posts : 29 | Posted 6/10/2004 5:59 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Regardless of what "mold" RR fit (and coming from you DLW, considering your lack of love toward GWB, I would be hard pressed to find anything reliable from you about a conservative),
Everyone has their biases; I would be equally wary of conservative interpretations of the Reagan years. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  feelinahole Registered Member
 Date Joined Jan 2004 Total Posts : 754 | Posted 6/10/2004 9:28 AM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
 |  Tigress Registered Member
 Date Joined Feb 2003 Total Posts : 1252 | Posted 6/10/2004 11:13 AM (GMT -6) |   | Regardless of whether or not we agree with them, we should still always honor the leaders we've been given. They usually try to do the best they can and it's certainly impossible for them to please everybody. I sure wouldn't want to be in their position. I was only a child while Reagan was in office, but from the things I've been hearing, it sounds like he did a lot of good things for people all over the world. It's too bad that he or Nancy may have used occultic practices for guidance, though. It seems like I hear that about a number of political figures. I heard that Princess Diana used astrology, and Hilary Clinton used mediums, etc. Why is that? The Enemy must really try to infiltrate governments that way. It's pretty scary, actually. To think that some important decisions might be getting made through Satanic means. Could some of the things that leaders initiate/implement and decisions they must consider be getting decided by Satan himself? That's a pretty scary thought. But, if people look to false prophtets, mediums, astrological charts, etc. to help them make decisions, the answers could only be coming from one source - Satan. Who's really leading some countries?  Tigress 
"Name a shrub after me. Preferably one that's prickly and difficult to eradicate."
-Captain Jack Aubrey "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" | | Back to Top | | |
 |  DLW Registered Member
 Date Joined Apr 2003 Total Posts : 2457 | Posted 6/11/2004 11:59 AM (GMT -6) |   | quote: Originally posted by feelinahole
Regardless of what "mold" RR fit (and coming from you DLW, considering your lack of love toward GWB, I would be hard pressed to find anything reliable from you about a conservative), I find it rude to judge a person while their body is still warm. May God have mercy on ALL our souls.
My lack of love toward GWB has nothing to do with him personally or his faith.
Disagreeing with someone politically doesn't mean one says all sorts of lies/mistruths about them.
And so my point still stands. RR, overall, seems to have been more of a believer in (US)American Individualism than an "evangelical" like GWB.
people may have "biases", but writing them off because of how we view them as "liberal/conservative" is not how we get the unbiased truth. It's better to try and carefully delineate facts from opinions.
Tigress, I agree about the importance of honoring our leaders. But reading ourselves into our leader or believing those who would manipulate us to think that way is not how we should honor our leaders.
dlw Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes." | | Back to Top | | |
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