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PotOnWheel
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  		   Posted 7/31/2003 11:44 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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DLW
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I think we collectively have to do a better job putting out polls.

Maybe the problem is there just aren't that many of us who regularly frequent the board and so we never will have that many responses?

I don't know.

dlw

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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DLW
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  		   Posted 7/31/2003 1:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by PotOnWheel

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sorry, but how many on this board did you expect to respond to your poll?
dlw

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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DLW
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  		   Posted 7/31/2003 1:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm sorry again.
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Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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PotOnWheel
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I had fifteen carefully written responses to the question: "Have you accepted Jesus into your heart."

I carefully considered a picture to go with it.

One of the answers seems sadly touching to me. A woman at work would like to be a Christian again; but she is an immigrant from A Baltic country, and I'm guessing that if she became a Christian again and wastn't as much fun, and her marriage somehow ended, that she might have to go back--I don't know.

THEN, after the question had been up for less than two hours someone came along and planted poison on the page by declaring the whole thead to be a failure, and its poster to be incompetant and out of the loop with how things are supposed to be done around here.

Who is ANYONE to tell another person what they aught to expect, or when they aught to expect it.

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DLW
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  		   Posted 7/31/2003 1:46 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
note how I used the word collectively.

So I was referring to how all of our polls failed to elicit much of a response and may have not been formed to be terribly edifying.

Thanks for sharing about the tragedy of your co-worker.

dlw

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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PotOnWheel
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  		   Posted 7/31/2003 5:20 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by DLW

note how I used the word collectively.

So I was referring to how all of our polls failed to elicit much of a response and may have not been formed to be terribly edifying.


You are only saying this: "It would be to the 'good' of everyone if everyone would do as I wish." You rationalize your critiques by linking them to goals that seem big to you. But it is just you wanting other persons to do what you want. (Remember what you shared about your disertation chair, who said that you just want to controle everything. Dave, being this way can prevent tenure in a university, and more than a year or two at a college.)

Maybe keep some of your observations to yourself; or put them on 3x5 cards by your computer. What's it going to take.
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DLW
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  		   Posted 8/1/2003 4:45 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by PotOnWheel

quote:
Originally posted by DLW

note how I used the word collectively.

So I was referring to how all of our polls failed to elicit much of a response and may have not been formed to be terribly edifying.


You are only saying this: "It would be to the 'good' of everyone if everyone would do as I wish." You rationalize your critiques by linking them to goals that seem big to you. But it is just you wanting other persons to do what you want. (Remember what you shared about your disertation chair, who said that you just want to controle everything. Dave, being this way can prevent tenure in a university, and more than a year or two at a college.)

Maybe keep some of your observations to yourself; or put them on 3x5 cards by your computer. What's it going to take.



I don't remember sharing anything like that about my dissertation chair. And, as I understand it, I would be one of those being critiqued by myself above.
dlw

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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honorman
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I'm just not a "poll" person. Personally, there have been several "burning" questions that I have put up over my time here, a couple I thought were really important. Many no one picked up on. I try my upmost not to take it personally. Sometimes the work we put into is just not rewarded, but its nothing personal.
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ReasonableDoubt
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Why in the world would people expect others to do things their way? What, are we God or something? Give me a break. It's a free country. Everyon'es free to do what they wish- as long as they remain law abiding. I fail to see how you could even think anyone SHOULD do things your way.
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DLW
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  		   Posted 8/2/2003 7:05 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I think it would be a good civic obligation for the denizens of this board to vote on each others polls. However, we should also try to put up polls on subjects on which there is likely to be controversy or uncertainty/legitimate disagreement regarding the "right" answer.

rules of civility also, as always, still apply.
dlw

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

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fencesitter
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  		   Posted 8/2/2003 5:58 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by ReasonableDoubt

Why in the world would people expect others to do things their way? What, are we God or something? Give me a break. It's a free country. Everyon'es free to do what they wish- as long as they remain law abiding. I fail to see how you could even think anyone SHOULD do things your way.


Its not hard to agree with ReasonableDoubt! Good point.

BTW -- I like your Jefferson quote: "Nothing gives one person so great advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances."
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