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BJS
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 4/11/2003 6:44 AM (GMT -6) | | Nope! Matrix (click, click) RELOADED! Oooo...I can't wait!
Brandon
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Triskal
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| Posted 4/13/2003 10:26 PM (GMT -6) | | There's a new trailer for it before the showing of Anger Management. You can see a lot more scenes than you could in the previous trailers that were released.
"In Him we live and move and have our being" - Acts 17:28
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 4/14/2003 11:35 AM (GMT -6) | | I saw the trailers before Anger Management (FUNNY!) and, sadly, it looks like a movie version of a video game. I don't share BJS' anticipation. I'm expecting nothing (better surprised than disappointed, right?).
Greg
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a_theist
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| Posted 4/14/2003 11:55 AM (GMT -6) | | I missed the trailer before Anger Management.  But I saw the trailer online, so I guess it is all good.
Peace,
Paul
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DLW
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| Posted 4/23/2003 6:36 AM (GMT -6) | | Prophetic Witness...
Right after I first watched "The Matrix", I summarized it as a retelling of Socrates Parable of the Cave with a Messianic Twist and lots of gratuitous violence. I also predicted that it could lead to a revival of militant anarchism.
I still think this, but, unlike the Parable of the Cave, it is the cave that is attractive and reality that sucks.
I think it will be hard to top that for a story in either of the sequels...
dlw
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From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
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honorman
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| Posted 4/23/2003 6:59 PM (GMT -6) | | It must be coming soon, they already got a tie-in with a beer company going...
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DLW
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| Posted 4/24/2003 8:26 AM (GMT -6) | | Yeah, they are selling beer with the movie, "Matrix". It better be a good brand, going against the beer giants.
Anyone seen "Jesus of Montreal". Now that is a good film for discussing the desire of the modern, secular world for a Jesus they can believe in...
dlw
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From the Cowardice that dare not face new truth,
From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
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fyodor
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| Posted 4/24/2003 6:30 PM (GMT -6) | | downloaded the trailer today...
I expect a thin plot, overuse of "cloning" and why is Nelson acting?
Excited nonetheless!
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honorman
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| Posted 4/24/2003 8:53 PM (GMT -6) | | The top picture is scarier than anything the Matrix will ever produce.
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BJS
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| Posted 4/25/2003 8:15 AM (GMT -6) | | People, this is too good to be true. . .have you all heard about this?
Brett
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 4/25/2003 11:45 AM (GMT -6) | | I was in the gym today thinking about the new movie coming up. And then it occurred to me, do any of you notice there is a lot of GREEN in the movie? The whole movie seems to have a tinge of green. Whats up wit dat? Could it have to do with combining the way computers were when they first came out with the cathode-ray tube and the idea of the matrix?
Brandon
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Electra
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| Posted 4/25/2003 6:52 PM (GMT -6) | | Call me old-fashioned, but....
 Awnold. Again. T3.
I don’t think Sarah Connor will be in this one though. What would the Matrix be without Trinity?
  
Love in action is a harsh and dreadful thing. ~ Dostoevsky
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Tom
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| Posted 4/25/2003 10:10 PM (GMT -6) | | Electra: I don’t think Sarah Connor will be in this one though.
Tom: It's "Sawah Connow" as Awnode says it. Like in "If it's gween we can kiww it"
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Electra
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| Posted 4/27/2003 4:54 AM (GMT -6) | | Tom: It's "Sawah Connow" as Awnode says it. Like in "If it's gween we can kiww it"
Electra: Emma tried.
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DLW
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| Posted 5/7/2003 10:22 AM (GMT -6) | | From the Times magazine article, it seems that Chaos Theory and determinism/free-will will be the major theme for the Matrix Reloaded.
dlw
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Tigress
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| Posted 5/8/2003 6:15 AM (GMT -6) | | I just read the other day that there is an orgy scene between some of the people in Zion. Apparently it's muddy and messy. Supposedly it isn't too explicit but either way it's still sinful even to just act it out and probably to watch it too - although I'm not sure. I would suggest that parents see the movie first before they allow their children to see it.
I still want to see this movie, but I wonder sometimes if it really is a sin to view a lot of the stuff we see actors acting out on screen. I mean it is a sin for people to be acting out sex scenes especially if they're married to other people in real life b/c regardless of the fact that they're acting, they're still doing those things with the other person, which shouldn't be done with anyone other than their spouse.
So, is it a sin in God's sight to watch stuff like that and support it with our money?
Tigress
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BBBCanada
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DLW
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| Posted 5/8/2003 9:25 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
I just read the other day that there is an orgy scene between some of the people in Zion. Apparently it's muddy and messy. Supposedly it isn't too explicit but either way it's still sinful even to just act it out and probably to watch it too - although I'm not sure. I would suggest that parents see the movie first before they allow their children to see it.
I still want to see this movie, but I wonder sometimes if it really is a sin to view a lot of the stuff we see actors acting out on screen. I mean it is a sin for people to be acting out sex scenes especially if they're married to other people in real life b/c regardless of the fact that they're acting, they're still doing those things with the other person, which shouldn't be done with anyone other than their spouse.
So, is it a sin in God's sight to watch stuff like that and support it with our money?
I enjoy watching french films because of their realism. I.e., they do often have some sexuality, which I enjoy, but they are then true to the emotional and psychological hurt that accompanies the abuse of one's sexuality. As such, the effect is cathartic for me, since I both enjoy the sexuality and am reminded of why I need to be disciplined in my life.
Needless to say, an orgy scene wouldn't qualify. Apparently religious teachings on sexuality are just one of those controls that the Matrix imposes upon us...
dlw
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honorman
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| Posted 5/8/2003 9:55 AM (GMT -6) | | I preview just about everything my kids see, esprecially something that is potentially as odd and disturbing as the Matrix.
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Tigress
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| Posted 5/8/2003 10:47 AM (GMT -6) | | Matthew 5:28 - But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Here Jesus made perfectly clear that if you're thinking thoughts about a woman that sexually stimulate you, you're committing adultery. (The same of course applies to women's thoughts about men as well.) So, for any man or woman that gets sexually stimulated by sex scenes in movies, that's sin. Therefore, this Matrix orgy scene may exempt quite a number of potential Christian viewers.
Yet, I still wonder if it's a sin for those of us who can watch sex scenes and not get sexually stimulated, to just go ahead and watch it anyway. I mean, by doing that you're endorsing the sinful activity, right? Regardless of any so-called moral to the overall story that the sex scene supposedly contributes to, the end doesn't justify the means.
Tigress
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 5/9/2003 5:34 AM (GMT -6) | | Couple of things. First, I try to be involved in what my children watch to the extent that I can. Children SHOULD BE, in my opinion, shield from sexually explicit content. Their sexuality is psychologically latent and should not be roused. It can be very detrimental to their sexuality and to themselves as whole persons.
Tigress said:
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Regardless of any so-called moral to the overall story that the sex scene supposedly contributes to, the end doesn't justify the means.
Yes, but this is not the only point that I was making. When I wrote,
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QA: What can be said of a film that is billed as a spicy erotic thriller, but when it's all said and done, adult viewers leave the theatre chewing on the importance of marriage fidelity and commitment?
I was thinking holistically here. I am assuming, by this quote:
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Do not each of us respond differently to stimuli, with different levels of spiritual maturity? Therefore others cannot determine for another individual what is or is not appropriate for viewing?
that one can not only participate in the watching of a film where sex is involved but that it can be done within the context of QA above. For some people, ANY portrayal of sexuality in ANY form is too much for them and therefore it is not recommended that they view such content. However, for some, sexual content can strike them with boredom, as if there is too much of it in the movie and we have a, “Here we go aaaagain!” response. Regardless of either reaction, this does not mean that there can not be a healthy portrayal of sex and sexuality within film. I totally understand your concerns Tigress and do I believe that there is a certain amount of legitimacy to them. However, I do fear that we as Christians are culturally ignorant (in the world but not of it, that is, Christians will not ENGAGE the culture) because we have not learned how to discern culture through a distinctly Christian filter (worldview). A good place to start would be:
www.thefilmforum.com/
Also, we have had discussions of thinking on a woman with lust in their heart. Anyone care to take a jab at that again?
Brandon
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honorman
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| Posted 5/9/2003 9:17 AM (GMT -6) | | What is this thinking of a woman with lust in her heart?
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 5/9/2003 11:26 AM (GMT -6) | | honorman, yer such a dawg...how's Barbara?
Brandon
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