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JCsites.com
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Posted 6/9/2003 12:16 PM (GMT -6)

All,

Please pardon me for making a judgement (or discernment), but after reading 6 threads over the past month, it's my opinion that we all are kind of cranky and irritable.

It seems to me (yes I am finite) that we are making more frequent personal attacks toward others thoughts and ideas instead of constructively critisising those ideas.

It would bum me out if we lost regularly active members cause they didn't want to be treated that way.

So anyway, what's my solution? How about a thread of positivity? I propose that we use this thread to express our appreciation for what we've learned from eachother.

Not just, "what I've learned from this board", but something like,

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"I may not always agree with POW, but on this point I really learned something from POW and I appreciate POW."

Of course I think we need to have freedom to say what we think. I just want to help us to avoid a spiral toward the negative. Afterall, this is a community, so even though we can't see eachother face to face, we still need to get along in cyberspace. We really should treat eachother just as we would in person.

So I ask you to reply to this thread with a message of appreciation for someone else on this board.

I also challenge you - think of a member on this board who may have recently irritated you. I want to challenge you to be honest with yourself about this person. Ask yourself, what have you learned from them? How have they impacted your walk with Christ? What good have they done for you? Now post an appreciation message for that person in this thread.

Lets sling some love too!

JCsites guy

Make Posts Not War...

GregBoyd
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Posted 6/9/2003 5:44 PM (GMT -6)

Okay, I'll start.

I like the way JCsites helps us keep our bearings on what's important. LOVE.

Next?
Greg

"The responsibility is with the chooser -- God is blameless." Plato, Republic, 10.

Mayflower
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Posted 6/9/2003 8:23 PM (GMT -6)

"And now abide faith, hope, love -- these three;
but the greatest of these is love."

1 Corinthians 13

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Mayflower
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Posted 6/9/2003 8:46 PM (GMT -6)

"And be ye kind one to another,
tenderhearted, forgiving one another,
even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you."

Ephesians 4:32

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Tom
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Posted 6/10/2003 12:23 AM (GMT -6)

OK...

I wanna say to all the determinists I've debated with and who are still around...

I love you...

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...even though you're wrong

Tom

Edited by - TGB on 06/10/2003 05:25:38 AM

might-be-don
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Posted 6/10/2003 1:04 AM (GMT -6)

I've got a problem...

in most cases both sides of almost every debate do a great job. I'll read a post and think, yeah that must be right. Then, I read the next post with the opposite opinion and think, yeah that must be right.

I can only conclude that I must be the one that is unstable.

A suggestion. Can you folks please only present the correct side of every issue. Thanks.

peace and love, don

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"You cannot step twice into the same river; for fresh waters are ever flowing in upon you." Heraclitus

Tiggers
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Posted 6/10/2003 5:04 AM (GMT -6)

quote:

I've got a problem...

in most cases both sides of almost every debate do a great job. I'll read a post and think, yeah that must be right. Then, I read the next post with the opposite opinion and think, yeah that must be right.

I can only conclude that I must be the one that is unstable.

A suggestion. Can you folks please only present the correct side of every issue. Thanks.

peace and love, don

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"You cannot step twice into the same river; for fresh waters are ever flowing in upon you." Heraclitus

Hey Don,
I must say, you make me crack a smile here,

thanks!
God bless ya!

Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers

“The notion that God uses evils as a means to such higher goods is, … incompatible with the doctrine that he is omnipotent, and therefore does not need to use deplorable means to achieve his ends” (J.L. Mackie).

honorman
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Posted 6/10/2003 6:19 AM (GMT -6)

I just want to thank God for myself and how right I have been...

DLW
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Posted 6/10/2003 6:24 AM (GMT -6)

I really don't have a clue what JCSites does on this board.

As a relative new-comer, I don't have much basis for comparison with the past, but I think things fall short of what they could be.

And I thank honordude for his never-ending willingness to show me how wrong I have been...
dlw

Prayer from Kenya

From the Cowardice that dare not face new truth,
From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Lord Deliver Me.

PotOnWheel
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Posted 6/10/2003 9:04 AM (GMT -6)

PotOnWheel
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Posted 6/10/2003 9:05 AM (GMT -6)

honorman
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Posted 6/10/2003 10:11 AM (GMT -6)

DLW: you have defined my purpose for me...

DLW
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Posted 6/10/2003 11:02 AM (GMT -6)

I posted a really interesting article in my inept link from the NYTIMES about the Alabamian gov'r who is claiming biblical support for his strategy of spreading the tax-burden in his state from the poor to the rich...

I hope people can check it out.
dlw

Prayer from Kenya

From the Cowardice that dare not face new truth,
From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Lord Deliver Me.

DLW
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Posted 6/10/2003 11:10 AM (GMT -6)

quote:

Okay, I'll start.

I like the way JCsites helps us keep our bearings on what's important. LOVE.

Next?
Greg

"The responsibility is with the chooser -- God is blameless." Plato, Republic, 10.

Must focus on the Center/Love.....
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Vote Republican!!!!
Compromise on Abortion is Murder!!!
Greg Boyd is a Mystic!!!
Lets Solve the Problem of Evil(Ev+il=Evil?)!!!
This is the best of all Possible WebSites(Especially in its organization or lack there of)!!!!
God is in Control(mas o menos)!!!
We all need less Judgement and more Discernment, particularly in judging/discering whether our conflicting statements over aspects of the problem of order are judgements or discernments!!!!

dlw

Prayer from Kenya

From the Cowardice that dare not face new truth,
From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Lord Deliver Me.

Tigress
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Posted 6/10/2003 12:01 PM (GMT -6)

Alrighty,
I'll admit that Christian and Reasonable Doubt and anyone else who I was rude to gave me some good insights into my other topic over there on "Questions About Christianity." They persisted in giving me answers even though I went beyond the point of deserving to be dealt with. Thanks guys.

Tigress

The Angel of the Lord encamps around those who fear Him, and He delivers them.
-Psalm 34:7

selah
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Posted 6/11/2003 1:41 AM (GMT -6)

Dlw,

You have unsurpassable worth...

selah

Then He showed me the river whose waters give life, sparkling like crystal, flowing out from the throne of God and of the Lamb. Rev. 22:1

Edited by - Selah on 06/11/2003 07:55:53 AM

JCsites.com
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Posted 6/12/2003 5:54 AM (GMT -6)

DLW I'm just another member of this board like you. I've been a member since it's first week in existence. However, I don't post that much. I read more.

I also provide technical assistance to other memembers when possible.

In case you cared, I have a wife, and 3 year old daughter. Spent 7 years as a missionary, and have taken basic theology courses.

I moved from Minneapolis to Atlanta last July.

So please, tell me about yourself? Do you really live in Mexico? Or are you a missionary in Kenya? Student at Bethel? Member of Bethlehem Baptist Church?

Thanks for sharing.
JC Sites Guy

Make Posts Not War...

DLW
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Posted 6/12/2003 10:00 AM (GMT -6)

quote:

DLW I'm just another member of this board like you. I've been a member since it's first week in existence. However, I don't post that much. I read more.

I'm sorry. I have a temper and anger that tends to release itself in the form of sarcasm. I also tend to be a skeptic on many matters of traditional Christianity and closely attune myself to how others portray answers as a-political when it really is a matter of fallible judgement, in my fallible judgment.

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In case you cared, I have a wife, and 3 year old daughter. Spent 7 years as a missionary, and have taken basic theology courses.

I moved from Minneapolis to Atlanta last July.

thankyou for introducing yourself to me. I do care. I do consider this board as part of my community rather than a place to propagate my ideas.

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So please, tell me about yourself? Do you really live in Mexico? Or are you a missionary in Kenya? Student at Bethel? Member of Bethlehem Baptist Church?

I was a student at Bethel and had four theology courses from Boyd. I became an open-theist and chose to emulate Boyd's style of apologetics, while I was a graduate student in Economics(This is part of what I did for fun during my grad school years. I led apologetics study session based on Boyd's book and others as well as several movies that were watched/discussed for their value in instructing us wrt apologetics. I even view my discipline of Economics as a form of apologetics, whereby we work out the metaphysical constructs that justify how we organize ourselves economically or that guide us in how we reorganize ourselves. )

In part because of me spending too much time wrestling with Theological questions or donating a signficant amount of my free-time to build the opportunity to witness to non-Christians by working for free as a union-organizer at my university for graduate employees, I ended up placing out of grad school at a very good school in Mexico. Here I have been blessed with the opportunity to teach the future leaders of Mexico.

So I really am writing from MX. I guess I have made the board my way of interacting with the US.

Thanks for asking and sharing JCSites,
dlw

Prayer from Kenya

From the Cowardice that dare not face new truth,
From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Lord Deliver Me.

Christian
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Posted 6/12/2003 11:49 AM (GMT -6)

DLW, you mentioned you became open theist while in G. Boyd's classes. Does G. Boyd teach open thiesm in his classes?

DLW
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Posted 6/12/2003 11:56 AM (GMT -6)

quote:

DLW, you mentioned you became open theist while in G. Boyd's classes. Does G. Boyd teach open thiesm in his classes?

In the Christian Theology, it was one of several theologies that was taught to us. It also came up in his apologetics class since we read his Letters from a Skeptic book.

dlw

Prayer from Kenya

From the Cowardice that dare not face new truth,
From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Lord Deliver Me.

DLW
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Posted 6/12/2003 11:57 AM (GMT -6)

Oh and JC if you think I come down hard on Boyd, don't get me started about Piper and Piperettes!
dlw

Prayer from Kenya

From the Cowardice that dare not face new truth,
From the Laziness that is contented with half-truth,
From the Arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
Lord Deliver Me.

Edited by - DLW on 06/12/2003 5:00:22 PM

PotOnWheel
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Posted 6/12/2003 12:13 PM (GMT -6)

quote:

DLW, you mentioned you became open theist while in G. Boyd's classes. Does G. Boyd teach open thiesm in his classes?

Does God Give Bad Advice? The Open View of God Stakes its Ground www.banneroftruth.co.uk/articles/2000/06/does_god_give_bad_advice.htm

God's foreknowledge debated by Baptists www.layman.org/layman/news/news-around-church/gods-foreknowledge.htm

God, Foreknowledge and the Baptist General Conference www.thebaptistpage.com/Distinctives/Doctrine/BGC_Resolution.htm

Laika
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Posted 6/18/2003 3:25 AM (GMT -6)

quote:

So I ask you to reply to this thread with a message of appreciation for someone else on this board.

I like how BBBBrandon's socks match. Most of the time.

Even though the skies are blue, don't they let the sunshine through?

PotOnWheel
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Posted 6/19/2003 5:18 PM (GMT -6)

We aren't in

ANYMORE!

PotOnWheel
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Posted 6/19/2003 5:20 PM (GMT -6)

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