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Tom
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| Posted 5/26/2002 8:08 PM (GMT -6) |   | adiaphora-
If you look at the "Preterist" thread you'll see two posts I made separated by several days (and by other posts on other threads). But both posts claim to be the 499th post! I'm being ripped off. I bet I could have 1,000 posts by now. The system is cheating me out of posts. Rats! 
Tom
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Tom
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| Posted 5/26/2002 8:12 PM (GMT -6) | | adiaphora-
Oooops. Just noticed that the number changes in all a person's posts to keep track. Eh, well, eh...hmmm, well, you know...Sorry. Ha! 
Tom 
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 5/27/2002 2:35 AM (GMT -6) | | | Tom, as you saw, everytime that YOU make a post, you re-write history. Wow! You-da-man, Tom! | | Back to Top | | |
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Tom
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| Posted 5/27/2002 3:11 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Tom, as you saw, everytime that YOU make a post, you re-write history. Wow! You-da-man, Tom!
Just another proof of Open Theism. The evidence is simply overwhelming!
Tom
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 5/27/2002 3:24 AM (GMT -6) | | Since you are on-line, Tom (and since this thread won't mind) let me float a ballon to you. I'll stay online a bit to see what you say.
It occurs to me that to a "classical" reader of OV rhetoric, that when an OV says that God is Open the "classic" person reads the OV as saying that God acts openly against a background of determined reality. But a consistently Open person (And, I'm going to wonder outloud here whether very many actually exist!) would not actually view created reality as any more determined than God actually created it to be. So, I'm wondering, is "Openness" really a change in view of God's sovereignty as sometimes, sadly, gets bantered about; or is "Openness" an acceptance in faith that even in the world that is big and scarry: God is the Lord; Our hope is in the Name of the Creator of the earth, the sea and all that is in them...; and even in a fallen world, God is still the Lord.
Artists work with half-done strutures all the time. For an artist, part of the plan is the getting-there. Part of what is 'done' is what is formed; but part of what is 'done' is also what potentialities are made room for.
I just think that God can 'make hay' from things that we would quickly give up on. ("A brused reed...a smoldering wick he will not extinguish!")
And for that reason, I really find a lot of the horror-story proofs for the Open-View to be simply horrable, and errant. And therefor I've asked this ballon.
What do you think, brother Tom?
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Electra
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| Posted 5/27/2002 1:45 PM (GMT -6) | | Tom, you sneaky guy! You became a Zosima when no one was looking!!!! Congratulations. What does “Zosima” mean, anyway? Isn’t it just a fancy way to call someone a wise guy?  Electra
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Tom
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| Posted 5/27/2002 3:43 PM (GMT -6) | | PoW-
Sorry I missed ya online. I didn't get back. Are all artists as eloquent as you are PoW? You stated it very well. Liked it very much. When are you writing it up in book form: "Art and Openness"?
Electra, thanks for the congrats.
Blessings,
Tom
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Modes of Thought
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| Posted 5/28/2002 7:01 AM (GMT -6) | | I agree with Tom, nice job POW. Well said.
"Christianly understood, truth is obviously not to know the truth but to be the truth. Despite all modern philosophy, there is an infinite difference here..." SK | | Back to Top | | |
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Tom
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| Posted 5/28/2002 7:08 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
I agree with Tom...,
After such a long silence, Modes, I can't think of better words to jump back in with! I've missed you bro.
Tom
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 5/28/2002 11:42 AM (GMT -6) | | | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 5/28/2002 11:45 AM (GMT -6) | | God did NOT create the ball. Man did.
(Tom, the pig's flying!)
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Tom
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| Posted 5/28/2002 12:28 PM (GMT -6) | | PoW-
Who is "Gog" and...what's that pig doing?
Tom
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Tom
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| Posted 5/28/2002 7:26 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
(Tom, the pig's flying!)
Ohhhh. He's flying. OK.
Tom
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PotOnWheel
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