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GregBoyd
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Posted 7/1/2002 4:15 AM (GMT -6)

ps. hey geej, careful about universalizing Lamentations 3. The context is one of divine judgment. Hence all the talk of GOD bringing the affliction on people. Outside of this context -- as, for example, in the ministry of Jesus to the multitudes -- afflictions are mostly associated with the Devil.

peace always
doc

"In Christ...the ONLY THING that matters is faith energized by love." Galatians 5:6

Springs
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Posted 7/1/2002 5:02 AM (GMT -6)

One of my prayers going into this weekend was that the whole congregation would pray together. I can't tell you how blessed I was when that happened! 'course I don't claim any responsibility for bringing that about. Rather, I believe it was God's heart that we all stand together, and with one voice, shout out his praise, his power, his love, his truth and his will! I think my prayer going into the weekend was one God had put on many hearts. I praise him for his ability to draw us together, even as the enemy tries to sift us.

Being in the prayer ministry for so many years I have heard a lot of our trials and heartaches, but I don't think it has ever been this intense. My son's girlfriend is in the hospital being treated for a blood clot in her neck and she is only 16! It is very strange!

Thanks for sharing the time you will be in surgery Doc. We will all be able to pray together again. Praise God. I pray that those who do battle for Doc today will also press in for Woodland, we have so many people that are hurting and discouraged.

Lord, We praise you! You are more awesome than we can comprehend! You are mighty! You are holy! You are faithful! Your love is beyond description! Pour out your spirit on us, empower us to pray your will into reality! Bind the enemy, and help us to not be ignorant of his devices. Let every heart recieve your call to prayer. Unite us Lord, so that we can accomplish your desire. Bring us together Father! In the midst of our trials, Father, as you look to see who is faithful, Father, I pray that you will not see only a few faithful saints standing in the gap, but that you will see all of us Lord! I pray that each and every one of us will understand the power and the importance of the prayer of faith! We love you Lord. Have your way!

-S

Gilthoniel, A! Elberech!
-JRR Tolkien

writerdad
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Posted 7/1/2002 5:34 AM (GMT -6)

But even Michael The Archangel, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring about a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" Jude 9
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. James 4:7, 8

geej
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Posted 7/1/2002 5:54 AM (GMT -6)

Greg,
Ew...judgement.

Oops. I kind of knew that the context didn't quite fit us that's why I felt the need to clarify what I liked about it. I will be careful about how I use it though...shoot Greg...this is the person who reads Ecclesiasties, Lamentations and Job as a "pick me up" ... they make me glad for my own problems.

Go kick Satan's butt today!!!!
Geej

Modes of Thought
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:02 AM (GMT -6)

er, maybe I'll start this post over with a new number.

"Christianly understood, truth is obviously not to know the truth but to be the truth. Despite all modern philosophy, there is an infinite difference here..." SK

Modes of Thought
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:03 AM (GMT -6)

Good news, doc is out of surgery and the prognosis is good. They seem to have gotten it all out.

"Christianly understood, truth is obviously not to know the truth but to be the truth. Despite all modern philosophy, there is an infinite difference here..." SK

geej
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:10 AM (GMT -6)

Yahoo!!!!!!!! Answer to prayer!!!
Geej

PotOnWheel
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:13 AM (GMT -6)

Amen!

mrfixit
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:20 AM (GMT -6)

Glory to God! The results of Greg's surgery is an answer to our prayers. The amount removed from his lip was limited to the initial amount estimated. We were all in prayer that the cancer had not spread any further. We'll have to send this to the "braggin on God" hotline!

Peace...

mrfixit

brandi
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:25 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
We'll have to send this to the "braggin on God" hotline!

DO IT PLEASE!

AMEN! PRAISE GOD for His mercy and love!!!

Thank you Jesus!
~Brandi~

Electra
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:32 AM (GMT -6)

Praise God.

Electra

BJS
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:37 AM (GMT -6)

Thank you, Lord! May Greg's recuperation be quick!

Brett

"Siste viator et memento mori."

Springs
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Posted 7/1/2002 11:45 AM (GMT -6)

Praise God! Thank you Jesus.

Thanks for the news Modes and Mrfixit.

-S

...but I have called you friends... Jn 15:15

graygirl
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Posted 7/1/2002 1:05 PM (GMT -6)

Amen and Amen.

God is faithful.

churchmouse522
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Posted 7/1/2002 1:57 PM (GMT -6)

Hi Everyone,

Thanks so much for the prayers and support. Greg was in and out of surgery in no time flat and I can't imagine a better outcome. He looks great! An hour and fifteen minutes after he went into surgery we were joking with him over a chocolate shake. God is good.

Mouse

Mayflower
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Posted 7/1/2002 3:43 PM (GMT -6)

SUBJECT: Greg Boyd (Post-surgery status report)

Greetings:

I am laughing & crying; and, singing & dancing!
Oh, Hallelujah!

THE GOOD NEWS has set my heart singing!

PRAISE THE LORD -- PRAISE THE LORD -- PRAISE THE LORD -- PRAISE THE LORD -- PRAISE THE LORD -- PRAISE THE LORD -- PRAISE THE LORD!

<><

JimmyGgp
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Posted 7/1/2002 9:04 PM (GMT -6)

Hi, everyone!

I am new here, but I have known Greg for a long time. About ten years ago I met Greg because I was involved in a wedding that he officiated. I was dead in my sin and desprately searching for meaning in my life. Anyone who's met Greg knows that the life and love of Christ practicaly explodes from him, so I made sure I was in his proximity as much as possible and talked with him at length. He answered all my questions with such intelligence, authority, and love that after the wedding, laying in bed that night I gave my heart to the Lord and felt the tranforming power of Christ's love and grace for the first time.

Needless to say, I was horrified upon hearing news of Greg's disease, and I have been praying frequently since then. Being thirsty for news, I went to the Woodland hills website and lisened to Greg's sermon - WHOA! Even over the internet, I could feel the Spirit of God moving powerfuly, and not just there - Even though I am a Christian, I have continued to struggle with many isuues in my life, and recently have been very depressed. It didn't occur to me that maybe the enemy is attacking me too. I was reading this message board and listening to Greg's message and I just felt the Holy Spritmove over me, giving me a sense of His strength, and blessing me with a courage I literally have not had in years! I want to put on the armor of Godand jump headfirst into the battle!

Sorry for rambling like this, but let me add my voice to all of those giving thanks and praise to Jesus for the successful surgery and praying for Greg's speedy and total recovery. The battle truly does belong to the Lord!

GregBoyd
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Posted 7/2/2002 1:59 AM (GMT -6)

Episode IXV: I’m Not Dead Yet (cf. Holy Grail)

Captain’s Star Date Log, 7/3/2003, 6:16AM CST. Kirk here. Alias, pastor Boyd. Doc. (opps, doc is taken on Star Treck I, so lets drop it for this post). Post op report. (Enter eerie high synth Star Treck I music)

Pain medication working very well. Fun fun. May have impaired my judgment a bit, or maybe I really am Captain Kirk. Can't be sure. More importantly, I don’t give a rip. Effect is slightly reminiscent of some laced mushrooms we picked up in the late 60’s on the east side of U of M, but a bit more mellow. On the corner next to that one building by the bridge with the super tall Jesus murial on the side. (Says Jesus Saves, you know the place. But don't bother checking it out. Sellers are probably gone by now) (Oh yes, Guardians of truth and righteousness, I know I shouldn’t joke about such matters. Not at all funny. NO. very true. thank you. This is serious. But I’m on some serious medication, so its not so serious, in a dialectical sort of way. Cut me some slack. Tell the teacher tomorrow. play hooky today. Thank you).

Not to say I feel totally normal, however, just free of pain (in case I gave the wrong impression). Actually, it feels like they transplanted my entire very healthy strong beating 46 bpm in mid day heart into my lower lip. The whole frigg’n thing. I swear you can see vibrating lip celluloid with every heart pulse. Boom boom… boom boom… boom boom. But no pain. Just flickering lip skin.

Face a wee bit of a mess. children in the parking lot flinched and cried "why mommy"? Rocky V on the left side of my mouth for sure. But more importantly, I don’t care.

Actually, its way better than anyone anticipated. Mouse even got rid of the "I'm Human!" sign she'd made ahead of time just for me. The best case scenario turned out, as some have reported (if I remember correctly… I read it too long ago). My doc got the bugger on the first take. PRAISE GOD. Took about 30% of my lip, but my doc is amazing. You’d never know it if it weren’t for the mere fact that a third of my lip is missing. Seriously, I don't look bad, especially on this medication. Take some of it, and I think you’d agree about me. You’d say, "dang, that there scar looks good. He looks like Captain Kirk with a slight Elvis smirk but in the opposite direction on the opposite side of his mouth what the heck is wrong with my analogy-making-machine." That’s exactly what you’d say. My doc is really impressive. I love him. It looks nothing worse than like a three inch chocolate malt drool down the side of the mouth. And the chocolate, he says, will turn to vanilla before long. (I doubt that image reassured anyone.)

Listen you guys. I hesitated to go public with this thing. With one exception (my first invasive cancerous growth on my back 4 years ago), I’ve kept these pretty quiet because I hate feeling like a victim and everyone worrying and coming up with sad eyes going "how ARRREEEEE You?" and not believing when I say ‘GREAT’. But Shelley and then friends talked me into it, and I’m glad they did. I’ve never felt so covered with prayer and so loved in my life. You’re words and prayers have been overwhelming. And that’s not the pain medication talking. That’s ME.

You won't mind if I just sort of make up some similar afflictions in the future to get your warm attention back will you? "Call the world. Pastor Boyd has a realllly bad headache today.?" Would that be inappropriate? a bit?

I'm also already strategizing how I can get me more of this here anti-pain stuff. Maybe if I "accidentally" cut off my foot.

aghh, might not be worth it. (I know I really shouldn't joke about this because some really do get addicted to pain meds and might be offended or caused to stumble or... like mary catherine gallary, i'm really really BAD. so very BAD. but maybe laughing will help them. anyone, BACK OFF POLICE SQUAD

. I said, tell the teacher tomorrow!!!! )

In closing, time for the preacher to wax eloquent and then go back to bed.

Sermon title: The BIG SCOTTIE IN DA SKI

Yeh, ya know

I was prepared in me heart to be beamed up, but alas, the big Scottie in the sky said to me with his rough Scottish brogue,

"iiiieeeehhh, Captain Kirk, I coon’t b’do’in 'at wit yuuuu ight now. Yuuuu got more time tuu b’serv’in down ‘air. So be on wit it. Scared face or not, lad, I’ll yuuuuuuse ya all da mowr. fo when yer weak, ie'em here strong, an if youuuu become butt-ugly, i'll be beoootiful throoooo yooo al th'more. rejoice en that whi dooon't ya now. after all, i tooook on meee a few scars of my own don't ya know. i'm rather fond of war wounds. you con check'em out latter in me hands when i finally do beam ya up.

and the lithium crysals never dilate up here."

over an out"

Corney yes, but I like it toooo.

Love you guys
thanks for everything

Maybe I’ll share other incoherent words on other threads, on this here medication, ya’coon’t b’suuuure.

Doc

"In Christ...the ONLY THING that matters is faith energized by love." Galatians 5:6

Edited by - GregBoyd on 07/02/2002 07:11:13 AM

churchmouse522
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Posted 7/2/2002 4:05 AM (GMT -6)

Oh my.

Thank God for pain meds.

Mayflower
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Posted 7/2/2002 5:43 AM (GMT -6)

To: Greg Boyd

Greetings, Brother:

PRAISE THE LORD! ! ! ! !
We're all so very thankful that the surgery went well, and that you're on the road to recovery!

Don't worry -- WE ALL understand about the (temporary!) side-effects of pain meds.

Remember:
"This, too, shall pass" ... !

<><

geej
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Posted 7/2/2002 5:51 AM (GMT -6)

Wow. Is it time for your medication or ours? How do we get some of that? Glad see you're okay.

Geej

Mephi2K
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Posted 7/2/2002 9:08 AM (GMT -6)

Glad to hear that you are ok and that everything's worked out, Doc. Straight up. (Considering our discussions on providence, I'm debating whether to attribute this directly to "answered" prayer or not. Oh, what the hey. Praise God!

)

Hmm...by the by, I want some of those painkillers too. Look at us all. Yes, Christians like to get high too. Heh.

Exhaling,

Shine
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Posted 7/2/2002 9:13 AM (GMT -6)

Thank you, Jesus!

P.S. What is the name of that pain-medication?

U2: "It's a Beautiful Day"

Tiggers
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Posted 7/2/2002 3:10 PM (GMT -6)

Hey Doc,

All I can say is…You Rock, Greg! I’m glad to see ya feeling better, and I’m still praying! God’s the true Bomb, and as P.O.D. would say “BOOM”…God Bless Ya!

Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers

PS
Still laughing from your last post, sweet! Keep us all here, posted!

“The notion that God uses evils as a means to such higher goods is, … incompatible with the doctrine that he is omnipotent, and therefore does not need to use deplorable means to achieve his ends” (J.L. Mackie).

Semeia
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Posted 7/3/2002 10:35 AM (GMT -6)

Hey Greg,

We were very relieved to hear that everything went well! We were praying on our way to Texas. In between praying about your surgery I had to keep interspersing prayers that Iconoclast didn't fall asleep at the wheel (we left Minnesota at 12:30am); that we didn't drive off into the ditch (along with several semi's that had slid off onto their sides and cracked open) in the pouring, blinding rain; and that the children didn't hurt each other too badly in their sleep-deprived crabbiness (and that I didn't hurt them too badly in MY sleep-deprived crabiness). (Does anyone know a good military boarding school that would take a 7, 10, and 11 year old?)

I pretty much had the feeling that you were going to be okay, and we were all going to die!

When we got here (Dallas) we immediately checked the board and were so happy to hear that everything went well and that the cancer hadn't spread. I'm thinking that having these tumors removed and pulling the skin tighter on your face is a lot like what they do in a face lift - so you've traded in a bit of lip but you probably look ten years younger! People pay quite a lot for that sort of thing.

Given the efficacy of all the prayer (I know, I know - the ambiguity...) I was wondering if I could start a thread requesting a prayer chain to rebuke my thigh cellulite... just a thought...

...

I was going to do an ode to morphine and painkillers in general, but decided instead to let your own post stand in eloquent (if slightly woozy) thanks to modern medicine. It's a classic.

But didn't the doctors tell you to rest?

Thanks,
Semeia

"The opposite of sin is not virtue, but faith."--Soren Kierkegaard

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