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BBBCanada
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| Posted 8/28/2002 3:21 AM (GMT -6) |   | But why don't we have solid evidence? Something like one strapped to the roof or hood of someone's car. Or a head on a plaque hanging off of a wall, preferrably above the fireplace?
I can catch a bear in a net. I can't catch God in one.
Brandon
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Mephi2K
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| Posted 9/3/2002 4:58 AM (GMT -6) | | Y'all know what I just thought of. I believe that some people treat the crop circles phenomenon JUST LIKE they treat the whole "spiritual warfare" thing. Think about it.
We ALL know that some of the exorcism or divine healing stuff is FAKED. Like crazy. But don't we get ticked off when some people try to relegate ALL spiritual stuff to human activity? Sure, we do. Don't we get ticked when they try to relegate ALL unusual spiritual phenomena to psychological malady and/or possible parapsychological activity (ie telekenesis, etc)? Sure, we do. And usually we say that it's because people just DON'T want to deal with all the evidence and admit that something occurs OUTSIDE of their current view of the world.
So, I ask, why are people who are SO BELIEVING in spiritual warfare and divine healing SO WILLING to do this same dismissal with the crop circles stuff? Seems kinda like a double standard to me.
Just me, though...
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Iconoclast
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| Posted 9/3/2002 3:02 PM (GMT -6) | | Mephi, I think the reason for this relates to Peirce's distinction between induction and hypothesis. (Sorry about all the Peirce stuff - I am just filtering things through my understanding of what he is saying just to see if I really understand it.)
My suggestion is that from induction neither aliens nor spiritual warfare stuff is very convincing. We just don't come across a whole lot of cases that clearly illustrate either.
On the other hand the hypothesis of spiritual warfare is MUCH stronger than the hypothesis of aliens. We tend to experience many more cases that are plausibly explained by spiritual warfare than aliens. And then when we use deduction to see how well each hypothesis fits with our other beliefs then the spiritual warfare hypothesis tends to be confirmed much more than a hypothesis of aliens.
Make sense?
thanks,
Iconoclast
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 9/4/2002 3:49 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Make sense?
Makes sense to me. I mean with five billion people on earth...some of the most advanced technology ever produced...and we still can't get substantial evidence??? Huh.
Brandon
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