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Springs
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Total Posts : 636
| Posted 9/1/2003 4:09 AM (GMT -6) |   | Doc: "Personally, I think it reflects immaturity to have to "block" someone elses post."
S: Personally I think it's immature to make judgemental comments about things on which you are obviously ill-informed. {:)}It's immature to block posts with a block feature, but it's not immature to just ignore them? Doc, it seems to me that you spend less time on the board than most participants. It also seems to be the case that you selectively read a couple of threads, and half the time you speed read those. I understand time constraints as well as the next person, and that's your right, but for regular participants who check the board daily and want to read what's new, and what most members are contributing, ignoring posts is not so easily accomplished.
There are days when DLW is on the board all day long posting every half hour on the hour. He posts on every thread, and starts new threads all the time. Even you must have noticed that Pow posts an incredible amount of information on this site. Those of use who are interested in reading what others have to say have to click on every thread and scroll back through pages and pages of cut and paste material on reform theology, pictures of icons, political articles etc. to see if anyone besides DLW or Pow has posted.
This isn't about shutting down differences of opinion. TGB and Iconoclast and others have been gracious to a supernatural degree. Most of us couldn't even muster up the grace it would have taken to respond to the "bobbies" that come along, in a Christian manner, yet our silence was interpreted as acquiessence.
Pow you counsel Kenya to channed some of her interest elsewhere. What about you? Why do you post so much on this site? (This is not a rhetorical question)If you want a weblog you should create your own blog. You say you haven't been mean, but I beg to differ. It's like you have appointed yourself to be our teacher, grandfather, and art instructor. But many of your posts come across as arrogant, dismissive and insulting, and it's not all about the communciation medium. What's up? I seriously don't understand your dedication to this site.
-S
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turner
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Total Posts : 13
| Posted 9/1/2003 4:35 AM (GMT -6) | | Hey, Springs.
The last several times that you have posted to me have all been negative.
Please, this time start a NEW thread to help us all move past this quagmire.
Go for it!
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Tom
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Total Posts : 10353
| Posted 9/1/2003 5:47 AM (GMT -6) | | Pow-
Since you have specifically addressed me regarding the block feature and specifically requested that I not block you, I thought I owed you an explanation of why I’ve chosen to block your posts from view in spite of the fact that I do believe in dialogue, enjoy a good debate, and respect those who hold positions different from my own. I think Electra’s recent posts listing her objections pretty much sum it up. You can’t fine a more gentle and patient person than Electra, one more concerned to go the extra mile. In spite of your snotty attitude she still wants to put herself through the agony of trying to read your posts. Amazing lady.
You on the other hand are condescending, judging, and often mean-spirited. The few times I’ve asked you to own up to some of your comments to me you have offered no apology and instead have simply swept me aside. It’s not as if no one has confronted you on this either. After many months I (and others) simply concluded that your attitude and inability to receive any correction whatsoever are implacable. Even now you want to “move on” out of the “quagmire.” It’s your quagmire bro.
Could I be entirely in the wrong? That’s possible. Could everybody who wants to block your posts from view be wrong? I doubt it. Like Electra said, blocking is a last resort. Perhaps the fact that so many on the forum feel the need to block your posts from view should tell you something about yourself. But this sort of self-reflection has been impossible for you as is now evident. You have been incapable of responding humbly to feedback. And when others do attempt to bring this up to you, your response is always to defend yourself and heap condemnation on them.
It would not be difficult to find those posts where you referred to things others have written as “vile,” “manure,” and “trash.” You have referred to me as “dirty mouthed” and a “non-worshipper.” When confronted with such things you imploy a fine art in explaining why saying such things was fine in your case. And your behavior regarding the block feature is more evidence of the same. Instead of humbling yourself and endearing yourself to others, you rebuke them and justify yourself. Blocking your posts from view is a choice I made after realizing there was absolutely no hope left in reasoning with you.
Well, you probably have no interest in receiving this or hearing it and will manage to dismiss it all. This would be par for the course for you. Still, in response to your request that I not do so, I felt I owed you an explanation of why I chose to block your posts.
I apologize for hurt I have caused you and for responding in frustration in the past. I have not been perfectly Christlike in all of my posts. I trust that when others have pointed this out to me I have been willing to apologize. So I wish you all the best and pray God bless and free you to become all you can be in Christ. I consider you a brother in Christ but find public discourse with you impossible. I hope you find the help you need to resolve whatever issues make you the sort of person from whom many of us have felt the need to cut ourselves off.
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PotOnWheel
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Total Posts : 9890
| Posted 9/1/2003 6:06 AM (GMT -6) | | Tom does some wonderful posts.
He initiates some wonderful discussions.
He establishes effective forums.
He builds some strong relationships. | | Back to Top | | |
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leastofthesebretheran
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| Posted 9/1/2003 6:24 AM (GMT -6) | | Here are the "Board Rules!"
quote:
In your use of these forums, you agree that you will not post any information which is vulgar,
harassing, hateful, threatening,
invading of others privacy,
sexually oriented, or violates any laws.
Its right there in black and white. | | Back to Top | | |
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Tom
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| Posted 9/1/2003 6:24 AM (GMT -6) | | It's not about ME, PoW. It's about YOU and your history here.
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leastofthesebretheran
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| Posted 9/1/2003 6:31 AM (GMT -6) | | What I want to recommend as needing thoughtful consideration is the needs of "the least of these" on this board.
I believe that it is hypocritical for a group of persons to say they are relating in a Christlike way with each other (which Christ said even thieves do) all-the-while torchering with their words those who are not even participating on this board.
Judging from this board: Calvinists are ridgid monsters. They hate. (Perhaps eat their apostate children to hide that one of there's is not elect?) They judge. They are also mindless. And any contribution they offer to the faith is flawed and not worth even considering. Any reflection they offer is delusional, and/or "inconsistent."
No.
These are my friends, they are my kids Sunday School teachers. I share my life with them, my prayers, my tears, my wonder and my love
Don't be at all surprised if I participate on this board in such a way to BOTH defend these "least of these bretheren." And offended or not, if you attack them (or the unborn) I will use any creative method of shaking you out of your comfort zone.
What else can I do? Here I stand! I can do no other.
If you don't want it, start representing the "least of these bretheren" yourself.
Remember:
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Here are the "Board Rules!"
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In your use of these forums, you agree
that you will not post any information which is vulgar,
harassing, hateful, threatening,
invading of others privacy,
sexually oriented, or violates any laws.
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Its right there in black and white.
For decades, and centuries, the Church has "blocked" (excommunicated, or villanized, or published tracts against) "other" groups in the ONE CATHOLIC Church, Christ's body. | | Back to Top | | |
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adiaphora
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Total Posts : 123
| Posted 9/1/2003 6:36 AM (GMT -6) | | PotOnWheel, your dismissive and condemning responses to several members of this discussion board reveals an unwillingness to reflect and change in response to others’ concerns regarding the form and content of your posts. As a consequence, you will not be able to post for the next three days. You will be able to return on a limited basis after that if you demonstrate a desire to receive others’ concerns respectfully.
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One Love
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Total Posts : 13888
| Posted 9/1/2003 7:47 AM (GMT -6) | | POW, Turner, Least, Al, fred (these are just SOME of the alter egos),
Listen very closely to me. Please.
I really do believe that if you keep this up, you are going to be banned. Do you hear me? BANNED. And you know what? I have a certain hunch that not too many people are going to feel badly about that. Listen, man. You are NOT communicating effectively. I really hope that you are hearing me. You are coming off as WAY too boisterous right now...and you have been for some time now.
Doesn't it bother you that the MAJORITY of the people that regularly participate on this board tried to block you? Doesn't that give you a hint that maybe the problem lies with you? Whether you perceive it or not, your behavior does come off as HARRASSING. Yes, it does.
I am BEGGING YOU as a brother in Christ. Entreating. Pleading. PLEASE just take the 3 days to chill, don't create ANY MORE alter egos just to post, and lay low. Think about what I'm saying. Please, man. Just think about it.
In genuine love and concern,
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honorman
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Total Posts : 1137
| Posted 9/1/2003 8:07 AM (GMT -6) | | | Least: please use quotes when you accuse people on this board of portraying Calvinists as "rigid monsters. They hate." Please show me where this is true with quotes if you would please... | | Back to Top | | |
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honorman
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Total Posts : 1137
| Posted 9/1/2003 8:17 AM (GMT -6) | | "If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18. Sadly, many times, we try our best, but it is not possible. But we still try... | | Back to Top | | |
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adiaphora
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Date Joined Jun 2001
Total Posts : 123
| Posted 9/1/2003 9:04 AM (GMT -6) | | PotOnWheel, etc.
I will not tolerate this level of disrespect. You will now be banned for seven days rather than three. In addition to the aforementioned reasons (NOTE: warm feelings for Calvinists is NOT a reason you are being banned—take responsibility for yourself!), you have sought to circumvent the consequences for your actions by creating new aliases faster than I can delete them. Please stop playing these games.
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honorman
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| Posted 9/3/2003 10:53 AM (GMT -6) | | Tigress: don't be so hard on yourself.  I, personally, have benfited much from your postings and we let emotion get the best of us sometimes. Love and forgivness go hand in hand and we all need a lot of both... | | Back to Top | | |
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Tigress
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Total Posts : 1252
| Posted 9/3/2003 11:49 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by honorman
Tigress: don't be so hard on yourself. I, personally, have benfited much from your postings and we let emotion get the best of us sometimes. Love and forgivness go hand in hand and we all need a lot of both...
Yes, but it seems like this issue has really been blasting off  among some people here and I feel so bad about my part in the negative side of it. Maybe if I had used discretion in the first place, none of this would have happened. After re-reading my bad posts to Paul (that I have since deleted) while in a more stable frame of mind, I couldn't believe how horrible I sounded. It was as accusatory as Satan himself is. I really need to stop just saying whatever I feel like saying and start considering how other people feel and the consequences of my actions.  This is not the first time in my life that something I've said has severely hurt someone and caused a negative backlash among a group of people. Now, it's as if no one can think about anything but this whole "block poster" issue and it's all just so divisive in general. I mean, not the "block poster" feature, but all the arguing around it. I've only been on this board for a few months, and already I stirred up a negative commotion. Ugh! 
I think it's time for some spiritual healing.  I'll start by praising Jesus for patient brothers and sisters who have put up with a bratty little sister (me  ) and who still haven't kicked me out. Thanks, Guys and Gals.
Tigress 
"Name a shrub after me. Preferably one that's prickly and difficult to eradicate."
-Captain Jack Aubrey
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honorman
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Total Posts : 1137
| Posted 9/3/2003 11:58 AM (GMT -6) | |  I hear ya...I've been doing some soul searching as well... | | Back to Top | | |
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