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Kenya
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| Posted 8/29/2003 8:41 PM (GMT -6) |   | | I do not know who to address this to, but I have a complaint. One of the members named Honorman is constantly harrassing me every time I post. He has told me to leave and get out of here, he has called me a hypocrite, co-dependent, and sad. He has also called me some other things that I can't remember, but they have all been slams against me and very derogatory and RUDE!! I do not know how to join in any conversation here without this man harrassing me with rude comments towards everything I say. It is very aggravating. Thank you for your time. | | Back to Top | | |
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One Love
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| Posted 8/29/2003 9:32 PM (GMT -6) | | Kenya,
Let me tell you what you can do. Step by step.
1) If you go near the top of this very page, and look right above where the board starts, you will see a line of links. One of those says “MEMBERS” Click on that link.
2) You should now be in the Members webpage. This page has a list of all members on the board. At the top of the list should be an alphabet of links. Find the “H” link, and click on that.
3) You should now be in the webpage that has all members whose name begins with “H”. Why, LOOK! Honorman’s name is right there at the top! See that?
4) If you look to the far right of the row with Honorman’s name, you will see a little face with a red slash over it. That is the BLOCK MEMBER tab. Click that.
5) You should see a window pop up that says:
Member has been added to your Block List
Close Window
That means that you will no longer receive Honorman’s bad rants. Now click on the “Close Window” link.
6) Experience a new freedom 
It’s a shame that there is actually a darn USE for this Block Member thing…sheesh.
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 8/30/2003 3:50 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Kenya
I do not know who to address this to, but I have a complaint. One of the members named Honorman is constantly harrassing me every time I post. He has told me to leave and get out of here, he has called me a hypocrite, co-dependent, and sad. He has also called me some other things that I can't remember, but they have all been slams against me and very derogatory and RUDE!! I do not know how to join in any conversation here without this man harrassing me with rude comments towards everything I say. It is very aggravating. Thank you for your time.
Here's Christ's answer. (Matthew 18)
quote:
A Brother Who Sins Against You
15 "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
18 "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
This is part of the by-laws of the "Community of the Cross" (the Church). The Cross HURTS, but it is much better than Facism. While Facism "makes the trains run on time" in Italy, the Cross redeems.
Notice that both Facism and the Cross promise to not leave you alone. (Ultimately, as a Christian ministry, this board has an administrator who can ask someone to leave; but...) In the "Community of the Cross" you can ask others to go with you to help in the restoration of relationship. In Facism you have technology.
Choose wisely.
Judging from what I've seen over and over here, the Cross is quite active and effective. I'd put my faith in it!
I'd put my faith in the Cross!
quote:
Romans 12:20
On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." [ 12:20 Prov. 25:21,22]
"Time is the freedom to love."
(from Ware's "The Inner Kingdom")
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One Love
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| Posted 8/30/2003 4:36 AM (GMT -6) | | Thoughts on Christian Community and CVM
A post from Fred has got me thinking. (Notice that I hadn’t blocked him, so I got to see it.) About what to do when a brother (or sister) offends you.
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A Brother Who Sins Against You
15 "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
18 "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
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This is part of the by-laws of the "Community of the Cross" (the Church). The Cross HURTS, but it is much better than Facism. While Facism "makes the trains run on time" in Italy, the Cross redeems.
Notice that both Facism and the Cross promise to not leave you alone. (Ultimately, as a Christian ministry, this board has an administrator who can ask someone to leave; but...) In the "Community of the Cross" you can ask others to go with you to help in the restoration of relationship. In Facism you have technology.
Choose wisely.
Judging from what I've seen over and over here, the Cross is quite active and effective. I'd put my faith in it!
I'd put my faith in the Cross!
The more I think about it, the more I think that he’s right…in the following manner. I firmly DO believe that the Block feature should remain here. Simply because this is a forum or EVERYONE, not just nice people and not just Christians (I separate the two categories because, obviously NOT all Christians are nice) Thus, it may be necessary to block some people who are just too assinine to listen to reason or deal with…
HOWEVER…
If we are dealing with the Christian community, then the rules should apply in all relationships…EVEN ONLINE ONES. This is the truth, I believe. Just because we don’t see each other face to face doesn’t mean that this doesn’t, in some way, constitute a community of Christians. So, perhaps what Fred is talking about it quite valid and this SHOULD be the approach for doing this. We truly should try to speak to the people offending us one on one, in love. If that doesn’t work, perhaps getting with another person here and trying, and so on and so forth.
BUT HERE’S WHERE THE KICKER STARTS…
People here who just keep doing offending behavior are going to have to learn to deal with OPEN, PUBLIC REBUKE! If we really are going to go all the way with the Christian model, then bringing it before the community IS the thing to do. In other words, if a person really is CONTINUALLY acting an a$$ and people keep trying to tell him about it privately, but nothing changes, a Christian is quite free to PUBLICLY POST his or her problems with that person to the WHOLE GROUP so that this may be openly discuss. And the ALL OF THE PEOPLE that feel the same way about that person should speak up! Moreover, if that doesn’t work, then that person is to be, at least for a time, EXPELLED from the community. This would either be by the administrator BANNING the person from the board entirely…or EVERYONE on the board agreeing to BLOCK the person.
Now, listen up, people. Some of us here KNOW that we are the problem people that caused this whole fiasco. I could start spoutin’ names right now, but I don’t think I need to. WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE! Let’s not fool ourselves. So, for those people, are you willing to go through this process? See, ultimately it’s more discretionary to deal with just being blocked by a FEW people, than to have your uncharitable flaws talked about PUBLICLY because you would listen to a couple of your Christian siblings. And it’s a lot more discretionary then having you completely banned or UNIFORMLY blocked by ALL.
So, if we are really going to do the Christian model, let’s go all the way. And let’s take this thinking to its furthest conclusions.
Are some of you READY for this? I really wonder. I'm down to try it, though
Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it!
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 8/30/2003 5:06 AM (GMT -6) | | First, when I take up an issue I don't lay it down soon just becasue it is not what the majority are interested in. That wouldn't be honest.
Second, I take the Gospel as the standard, and not comfort. Rule of the majority is even recognized as a danger by the framers of the U.S. Constitution. (Just consider Rhode Island and its two Senators.)
If the issue is Christian charity, then what Meph is saying should ALWAYS be operative. But if it is just a preference for everyone to behave the way that we feel most comfortable being around, then that is not the Gospel. (As a teacher in a special ed. school let me underline that!!!!) Christ is Lord; not the majority!
Third, saying "WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE!" is divisive, and un-Christian. It is "party spirit." It chategorizes, and fails to recognize the Spirit in each Christian. It puts God in a box, and limits the work of the Spirit in "the least of these." The "Fool for Christ" who would slap the Czar in the face with reproof (This really was the case!) would not rise standards of conformity.
Fourth, being strong in the Gospel is vitally necessary if Christians are to avoid being conformed to the world. Meph mentioned "or EVERYONE on the board agreeing to BLOCK the person." That's mob. It erases "the least of these." In Matthew 18 the PATH to the whole church is ONLY through the "elders" (the Gospel). And it is NOT democracy or the rule of the majority that carries sway, it is the mission of the Church! The group is not Lord.
Fifth, this is not a gardening club discussion board. It concerns topics that have or might threaten ministries, have threatened pensions, families, etc. There are larger issues than scrolling comfort, or personal annoyance.
Meph said this (and I agree):
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If we are dealing with the Christian community, then the rules should apply in all relationships…EVEN ONLINE ONES. This is the truth, I believe. Just because we don’t see each other face to face doesn’t mean that this doesn’t, in some way, constitute a community of Christians. So, perhaps what Fred is talking about it quite valid and this SHOULD be the approach for doing this. We truly should try to speak to the people offending us one on one, in love. If that doesn’t work, perhaps getting with another person here and trying, and so on and so forth.
And the ONE RULE that applies is Christ.
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One Love
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| Posted 8/30/2003 5:09 AM (GMT -6) | | Meph’s right here…
B:
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Third, saying "WE ALL KNOW WHO THEY ARE!" is divisive, and un-Christian. It is "party spirit." It chategorizes, and fails to recognize the Spirit in each Christian. It puts God in a box, and limits the work of the Spirit in "the least of these." The "Fool for Christ" who would slap the Czar in the face with reproof (This really was the case!) would not rise standards of conformity.
I certainly hope that JCSites post on that other thread has justified my statement to you. Out of ALLLLLLL the friggin people on this board, only TWO PEOPLE have been repeatedly blocked or ATTEMPTED to be blocked. And that’s what’s creating the bug! Doesn’t that tell you something? Do you actually don’t think that the VAST MAJORITY of the people know who these two are? The bug ITSELF shows that they do. I didn’t say that to be divisive. I said that because it was TRUE.
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B:
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Fourth, being strong in the Gospel is vitally necessary if Christians are to avoid being conformed to the world. Meph mentioned "or EVERYONE on the board agreeing to BLOCK the person." That's mob. It erases "the least of these." In Matthew 18 the PATH to the whole church is ONLY through the "elders" (the Gospel). And it is NOT democracy or the rule of the majority that carries sway, it is the mission of the Church! The group is not Lord.
MOB??? This is what Paul says to do in no uncertain terms! Remember what he said to do in 1 Corinthians about the one in sin. He said for NO ONE to even EAT with such a one. No one. This is not a mob thing. This is the CONSISTENT application of the biblical principle talked about.
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Now, do you REALLY want me to deal with this. I got my eye on that darn bell…and the cat ain’t TOO far away!
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 8/30/2003 5:18 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
MOB??? This is what Paul says to do in no uncertain terms! Remember what he said to do in 1 Corinthians about the one in sin. He said for NO ONE to even EAT with such a one. No one. This is not a mob thing. This is the CONSISTENT application of the biblical principle talked about.
I'm going to guess that Meph is talking about me. (I don't know why he should be.)
If this is about personal comfort, then that is a shame.
HERE are the authorized "rules":
- Love God.
- Love your neighbor as yourself.
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One Love
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| Posted 8/30/2003 5:26 AM (GMT -6) | | I tell you what. How about I do this when I'm not so frustrated. If I am to do this, I would like this to be in the right spirit...and out of genuine love and concern. If there is SOMEONE ELSE who can do it better right now...the stage is yours. Otherwise, gimme a while.
Holla... | | Back to Top | | |
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honorman
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| Posted 8/30/2003 5:28 AM (GMT -6) | | Since my name is specifically mentioned, I will make a brief statement.
Kenya, I thought the jumping on and posting brief messages of "hi" to you was funny and an attempt to lighten up the situation. Apparently, you did not think so, so I apologize. I will not respond to you again. I did not mean anything but a good-natured poke in the ribs by them. I am sorry. I will not respond to any of your posts again (after this one, of course)...
However, I will repeat what I have said before in the hopes you will (finally) understand where I am coming from.
This is a bulletin board dedicated to open theism, which is a new (relatively) view of Christianity. Many on it do not agree and believe it is wrong. That is fine, even encourage. However, it is simply unfair to ask questions about it and, when given well reasoned answers, to simply dismiss them with caustic comments. Which you have repeatedly done. It is unfair to continuely do that and is rude to waste other people's time when you don't really seem to want an answer.
To challendge a person on this is not being bitter, or unloving, or rude. It is simply being honest. I have no problem with opposing views being on here. I encourage it. But each of us should respect others points of view, giving each person the benefit of the doubt, trying to realize that each of us has put in a great deal of time, effort and prayer.
As for me, I state here that I am imperfect. I do not always treat people well and for that I apologize. God is gracious and I am learning (or trying to learn) not to be so caustic myself. It is not easy and I again apologize to any I have offended (and for future offenses, which I know will occur). But it bugs me no end that people, many times, do not seem to give open theism an honest appraisel, that they question our motives and feel the need to call us to repentance over beliefs they really don't understand and take the word of opponents of open theism rather than the source.
So I apologize. I never to harm anyone. But I also believe in the need to point out when some people are not playing fair... | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 8/30/2003 5:31 AM (GMT -6) | | From another thread:
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I'm glad we agree and perhaps I didn't put my best foot forward (if so, I apologize). I would encourage you to make the best case for Calvinism. We each should make the case for what we believe. And hopefully we learn from each other, grow a little closer and unite just a little more...
What if that dialog had been "aborted" by blockage, and had never had a chance to develop? | | Back to Top | | |
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Kenya
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| Posted 8/30/2003 9:52 AM (GMT -6) | | I really don't want to block anybody. If I block H., he can still read my comments and still harrass me either to my face or talk about me derogatorily to others, which he has also done that. About PotonWheel, I've never seen any rude thing he's ever said. Are people blocking the rude people or just blocking people because they don't agree with the open theism or their comments are too long?
Honorman, I'll believe it when I see it. I personally think you are lying in what you just said because no, you did not say things to me to be funny. You were downright rude and unkind EVERY single time you have ever spoken to me or about me to someone else. I don't even believe for a second that you were making a good-natured poke. You don't call people hypocrites and co-dependents as a "funny" or goodnatured poke! Even right now you tell me I am caustic, wasting people's time, and not listening. And you can't blame being rude on what I have said that I don't think much of openness. You also slammed me because I said I want to submit to my husband!! You completely judged me and said very derogatory things and you are still doing it in your "apology" by saying I waste people's time and the rest of it.
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adiaphora
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| Posted 8/30/2003 10:59 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by fred
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Here's Christ's answer. (Matthew 18)
quote:
A Brother Who Sins Against You
15 "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
18 "I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19 "Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them."
This is part of the by-laws of the "Community of the Cross" (the Church). The Cross HURTS, but it is much better than Facism. While Facism "makes the trains run on time" in Italy, the Cross redeems.
Notice that both Facism and the Cross promise to not leave you alone. (Ultimately, as a Christian ministry, this board has an administrator who can ask someone to leave; but...) In the "Community of the Cross" you can ask others to go with you to help in the restoration of relationship. In Facism you have technology.
Choose wisely.
Judging from what I've seen over and over here, the Cross is quite active and effective. I'd put my faith in it!
I'd put my faith in the Cross!
[quote]Romans 12:20
On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." [ 12:20 Prov. 25:21,22]
fred, your point about Christian community is well-taken. However, I think your insinuation that people who choose to block others are trusting in fascism as opposed to the cross is unnecessarily inflammatory.
While some people will choose to use this technological option as a matter of convenience, others will use it only as a last resort after following the model of confrontation in Christian community you sighted above. If the Christian discussion partner refuses to listen to faithful attempts at confrontation and reconciliation, then blocking may be a legitimate consequence in the context of an on-line discussion.
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 8/30/2003 11:15 AM (GMT -6) | | Well, "a", it is not "unnecessarily inflamatory." Proof is that you, Doc and I each ALL agree on what uses would be matters of community and which would be facist. (Facism is just a kind of use of power, which technology can 'avenue.')
TRUE power is in the Cross, In Love... May God be glorified!!! | | Back to Top | | |
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adiaphora
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| Posted 8/30/2003 11:32 AM (GMT -6) | | PoW: Well, "a", it is not "unnecessarily inflamatory." Proof is that you, Doc and I each ALL agree on what uses would be matters of community and which would be facist. (Facism is just a kind of use of power, which technology can 'avenue.')
adiaphora: I’m having a hard time following the connections you are making, so I find it strange that you are so confident that I agree with you. I certainly would not polemicize the to-block or not-to-block question by framing it in terms of trusting in Facism or the Cross. Your insinuation that people who choose to use the block feature are Christ-forsaking Nazis, regardless of whether they faithfully follow the model of confrontation you site above, seems to shed more heat than light onto the legitimate concerns involved with this particular feature of our discussion board.
PoW: TRUE power is in the Cross, In Love... May God be glorified!!!
adiaphora: Now that I can agree with. Amen. | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 8/30/2003 12:18 PM (GMT -6) | | Take two:
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adiaphora: I certainly would not polemicize the to-block or not-to-block question by framing it in terms of trusting in Facism or the Cross. Your insinuation that people who choose to use the block feature are Christ-forsaking Nazis
NEITHER DO I.
But to rely on technology or power-plays instead of relationship-building love (should one chose that) would be more like "making the trains run on time" (in Italy) than taking up one's cross.
That was my point. (I'm just not going to go where you are trying to lead my input.)
quote:
you, Doc and I each ALL agree on what uses would be matters of community...
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honorman
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| Posted 8/30/2003 1:07 PM (GMT -6) | | K: sorry you feel that way. Oh well (sigh). You believe I am lying. You certainly have that right. But God knows each of our hearts. It is in his hands...
Just for the record (for all to see), I believe my comments on the "good natured pokes," were about dropping in and saying "hi" to Kenya, not the other comments she brought up. Therefore, I would agree I was not making good natured comments then...I was making an appraisal. | | Back to Top | | |
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Kenya
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| Posted 8/30/2003 5:15 PM (GMT -6) | | Honorman, if you are not lying and are sincere, time will tell I'm sure.
I also think that what I am complaining about is the same reason why Reasonable Doubt has not been in here lately. You harrassed her too. And Polycarp. And SIM. I haven't seen any of them back in here this week and they all complained about how you were talking to them. Well, I'm not sure about SIM, but she did have some complaints about the "air in here". | | Back to Top | | |
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honorman
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| Posted 8/30/2003 7:03 PM (GMT -6) | | Kenya: since you feel the need to "racket up" the hassle charges to speak for others who have been on this bulletin board, I feel a need to respond so that others will not get only your onesidedness.
First, I must clear a couple things up. I was not apologizing for any of the posts I made in response to you. I stand by everything I said except the "hellos." Much of what I said was justified, some probably wasn't put well, some most likely had bad logic, stuff like that. I'm human, but I will not take back my responses to you in general because I still believe they were honest and true. That said, I will repeat I only apologized for the dropping in to say "hello" repeatedly which I thought was funny but you did not.
Two, I am not here to prove myself to you or anyone else, so whether time will tell I truly could care less. What matters to me is how God preceives what I do and I know in my heart why I said what I said and if you don't believe me that's your problem not mine.
Three, as far as Polycarp and RD are concerned, I would suggest you do a little reading. I am not the only one who reacted strongly to them, so if I was hassling them, so were a lot of other people. I would suggest you speak for yourself when you accuse a person of such acts and not presume to know why others are doing what they are doing.
Finally, I would suggest you let this drop. You called me out and if you continue to widen your scope of "preceived abuse" I will not stand for it and I will continue to respond. And I do not believe that will benefit anyone.
Everyone speaks with emotion. I can count a lot of times when people have ticked me off, when I felt they were hurtful. But I have never made an issue of it and I don't intend to now. Kenya, drop it. Its over. If you drop it, I will not respond to you anymore. But if you continue your charges against me, I will be forced to respond. And I am growing tired of this... | | Back to Top | | |
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Kenya
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| Posted 9/1/2003 12:16 AM (GMT -6) | | Honorman, you sound like now you are threatening me! CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS OR AM I CRAZY???? I didn't write this to even get Honorman's attention. I would like help with this if it's possible, please! He has harrassed me and now is saying threatening thigns trying to intimidate me. Another member, Reasonable Doubt, who hasn't been here all week, accused him of doing the same thing to her! PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS MAN!! I do not want to block anyone.
Finally, I would suggest you let this drop. You called me out and if you continue to widen your scope of "preceived abuse" I will not stand for it and I will continue to respond. Kenya, drop it. Its over. If you drop it, I will not respond to you anymore. But if you continue your charges against me, I will be forced to respond. And I am growing tired of this...
Oh, I went to find the conversation with Reasonable Doubt. It is called "John Calvin's Bodycount." Here is what Honorman said to her. Again, RD, there is NO WAY, Springs called you a liar. Get off it! There is nothing in the post about lying, misrepresenting you. Nothing even remotely close Give it a rest. Talk about touchy...
Is this how you here want to be seen as? This is a Christian website, right? When Honorman bosses people around, harrasses and threatens them, or is sarcastic, rude, and a million other negative adjectives, it makes all of you look very bad! I saw him say things like this in the discussions I was in also to Paul and to Polycarp and I think some others that I can't remember. He also told me to get out of here and to leave! | | Back to Top | | |
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turner
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| Posted 9/1/2003 3:02 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by Kenya
Honorman, you sound like now you are threatening me! CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS OR AM I CRAZY???? I didn't write this to even get Honorman's attention. I would like help with this if it's possible, please! He has harrassed me and now is saying threatening thigns trying to intimidate me. Another member, Reasonable Doubt, who hasn't been here all week, accused him of doing the same thing to her! PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS MAN!! I do not want to block anyone.
Finally, I would suggest you let this drop. You called me out and if you continue to widen your scope of "preceived abuse" I will not stand for it and I will continue to respond. Kenya, drop it. Its over. If you drop it, I will not respond to you anymore. But if you continue your charges against me, I will be forced to respond. And I am growing tired of this...
Oh, I went to find the conversation with Reasonable Doubt. It is called "John Calvin's Bodycount." Here is what Honorman said to her. Again, RD, there is NO WAY, Springs called you a liar. Get off it! There is nothing in the post about lying, misrepresenting you. Nothing even remotely close Give it a rest. Talk about touchy...
Is this how you here want to be seen as? This is a Christian website, right? When Honorman bosses people around, harrasses and threatens them, or is sarcastic, rude, and a million other negative adjectives, it makes all of you look very bad! I saw him say things like this in the discussions I was in also to Paul and to Polycarp and I think some others that I can't remember. He also told me to get out of here and to leave!
Kenya. No, you are not "crazy." But you do need a distraction. A worthwhile, fun, rewarding distraction. And you need to take at least half of your burden over the above issue and put it in Jesus hands.
Back when I'd only been married a few years I remember trying to "solve" arguements. (My wife, from a large family, knew full well better--to her credit.) But as years and "life" went on I caught up with my wife's wisdom (and my kids natural instincts) to move on. She picks up the newspaper, and when she finds something interesting, funny, shared-in-common she tells me, and we laugh, or whatever. It works.
Honestly, Kenya. You are focused (past tense--only in the text above--and NOT you personally!) on the half-empty part of the glass. Honorman is a father of older kids. And a long, long marriage. You are lucky to have a disagreement with someone with such huge life experiences. Let me pull out the "half-full" part of the glass for you. OK.
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"...I would suggest you let this drop..."
"Give it a rest..."
"You certainly have that right"
"I do not believe that will benefit anyone."
That's what I found. What's there is a ready (and family-proven) habit of moving on.
School throws in with people who are different from us. Dormatories do the same--but they are the result of some difficult sorting out to keep whole floors of people from going at each other's throats (even at Christian colleges). But honorman has my respect due to his having lived both WITH and THROUGH the years that only lay ahead for me: the "teens." (My boys are still angels!)
Sincerly, Kenya, I think that if you were to profoundly offend honorman three more times he would still extend the SAME offer/advice to you. (He has practiced it hundreds of times at home in his own family!!!!) Just find something interesting. Move on. Some time you will (statistically) actually find something that you WANT to discuss with honorman. (But probably not for a half-hour or so...)
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 9/1/2003 3:41 AM (GMT -6) | | | My post above can be deleted as it was posted on the wrong thread. | | Back to Top | | |
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Kenya
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| Posted 9/1/2003 12:25 PM (GMT -6) | | Lucky? Lucky to have him saying what he says because I am female and younger than him? Bill Clinton has a wife, kid, and life experience. Saddam Hussein had grown kids, wives, and life experience. Ozzy Osbourne has kids and life experience. Age, kids, spouse and life experience doesn't mean a person is wise, kind, or good. Honorman and I haven't really had disagreements. It has been more of him saying rude things to me (and other people) every time I have said anything. Why is he not banned the way I see that Pot On Wheel is being banned? I don't see Pot on Wheel having half the rudeness that Honorman has (telling people they are hypocrites, co-dependent, "sad" as in sorry and pitiful, telling them to "get off it" and get out and leave and making snide remarks about people to the other members (like about me, Paul, Reasonable Doubt, Polycarp, who else?). I dont' understand this website and the mentality here at all! It looks like no one is going to do anything except tell me to not be offended???  | | Back to Top | | |
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