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quest for truth
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| Posted 5/30/2004 8:55 PM (GMT -6) |   |  Can someone tell me where many of the "old" posters have gone? I know there are still a few who post here but many are no longer posting (or at least not too often) Is there another forum out there that some of them have gone to? I miss reading posts from people such as Semeia, Iconoclast, ModesofThought, Shell, Springs, MephEternal, Empiress, and others.
I know Greg Boyd has decided to take a break away from the board, is this what many of the others have decided to do as well? Does anyone know? | | Back to Top | | |
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selah
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Tom
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| Posted 5/31/2004 3:16 AM (GMT -6) | | Modes stopped posting a long time ago. Very busy as I remember. Five of the other old timers stopped immediately after the "Carlie" thread ran into problems as far as I can tell.
The board is definitly a different sort of place from the early days though. I can't quite put my finger on it.
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BBBCanada
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| Posted 5/31/2004 4:03 AM (GMT -6) | | Tom,
I really think that when Greg decided to leave the boards (though he says he will come back every so often) that some of us others stopped posting, though I still think vigorous debate is needed. However, just as scholars can exegete the crap out of a passage of scripture, when it was really meant to be LIVED, I think Greg in part may have felt that he wanted his heart to catch up with his head. He has alluded to this in the past. www.christusvictorministries.org/gbfront/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=999
This may be a case in point here.
P.S. I do miss ALL my buds that I visited with in Minnesota, plus some of the others that I haven't had the chance to see, (i.e. Meph Man, Starkman). However, I have gone to visit Pinnock and plan on worshipping with him this Sunday in Hamilton. He's my bud too. 
Brandon
"Corporations are simply the kind of structure that rises when hordes of people need to be managed, and after spending some time in a large church, I've found that our spirituality does not exempt us from these inefficient and dehumanizing practices."--Steve Lansingh's review of "The Office" at The Film Form | | Back to Top | | |
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quest for truth
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| Posted 5/31/2004 5:15 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
ya but you forgot Trosie
Thanks, Selah!
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Five of the other old timers stopped immediately after the "Carlie" thread ran into problems as far as I can tell.
The board is definitly a different sort of place from the early days though. I can't quite put my finger on it.
What problem would have caused them to stop? The beauty of openly discussing issues is to feel freedom in disagreeing. I'm not sure what you mean. Did the people stop posting because there were mean things said? I do not recall. Perhaps Brandon is correct that some left when Greg did.
I enjoy those who post here now but I sincerely miss those who don't.
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I really think that when Greg decided to leave the boards (though he says he will come back every so often) that some of us others stopped posting, though I still think vigorous debate is needed
I agree. The way to strengthen our mental muscles is through exploring and learning. Debate is very needed especially since we are all on the journey to discovering more and more about what we believe and where that belief originated. To challenge our own beliefs and convictions. This board has been extremely helpful for me in doing that.
I miss Greg Boyd. I know he pops in for a post or two but it definitely is different without him here on a regular basis. 
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Tom
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| Posted 5/31/2004 6:26 AM (GMT -6) | | I think Brandon is probably right. Doc's leaving affected others. Ignore my comments about the "Carlie" thread. It was a difficult time. I'm guessing the events surrounding the latter days of that thread influenced some in deciding not to return.
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Tiggers
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| Posted 6/1/2004 5:55 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by TGB
I think Brandon is probably right. Doc's leaving affected others. Ignore my comments about the "Carlie" thread. It was a difficult time. I'm guessing the events surrounding the latter days of that thread influenced some in deciding not to return.
Tom
Hey TGB,
I think you were right on regarding the "Carlie" thread, and dag, Tom, don’t you ever stop spreading your wit on C.V.; furthermore, regarding Greg's absence on this board, hell ya, people will start dropping out, ya know…it’s just the way it is! I miss modes, meph, electra, alan, etc. too, but I also praise God for
Major Props to:
TGB, Lee, BBB, JeffScott, Feelinhole, POW, VicoryWord, Moon_River, 1Way, JohnEarp, Tigress & DLW, BadgerVol, RossFadeinandout, Laika, StarkMan, Selah, QuestforTruth, etc. Ya’ll make reading this site still fun and educational, God bless ya, truly  !
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers 
PS
Ok, I realize there are probably many misspellings with the pseudonyms and all, but it’s off the top of my head, sorry.
PSS
I was visiting the Cities this Memorial weekend and tried to find woodland hills new (i.e. to me) building. I was given directions to take 694 to White Bear and go south and take a left on aughhhh now I forget the st. name Woodland was to be on. Anyways, we couldn’t find it, sheesh, I first chance to worship with many of you and I couldn’t even find it. Next time…!
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/1/2004 6:07 AM (GMT -6) | | Here's a theory:
This board has always had an "edge." It was born out of the Edgren Fellowship's List-Serve were Roger Olson and Modes of Thought even got kicked off!
[Comments removed by ataraxia]
Personally, I think that the poles did something. (At least I thought they would.) If they did anything, it could be that the notion that ONE idea, even if new and just set to try out, could be faced with the MANY votes against it, that the single idea, or feeling, or tradition, conviction, reaction could be subjected to GROUP PRESURE. (Like the problem with a small state like Rhode Island versus mega-states like New York and California.) Maybe not. But I remember that being my concern at the time. IMHO, JCSites was well intending when he brought more-power/technology to the board. But as this whole adventure was born in the dark-ages of the List-Serve world, it may not be a good fit.
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On a positive note.......the FORMAT of the board having "threads" to facilitate our examining many posts at one time is great. Far better than ListServes.
And against the backdrop of my own remark here, it is appropriate for me to apologize for cluttering up so many threads, and making certain concersations -- some of which upset me -- more difficult.
But I apologize for none of the goofy pictures.
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quest for truth
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| Posted 6/1/2004 7:32 AM (GMT -6) | | Tiggers, OUCH, you hurt me. I started this thread and I don't even get mentioned in on your list of Major Props to:
TGB, Lee, BBB, JeffScott, Feelinhole, POW, VicoryWord, Moon_River, 1Way, JohnEarp, Tigress & DLW, BadgerVol, RossFadeinandout, Laika, StarkMan, Selah, etc.
Perhaps my posts have been overlooked or insignificant and that's why I wasn't included in on the list and perhaps you didn't notice who started this thread... But, hey, if you have something personally against me I'd like to hear it here otherwise I will just take being left out as a source of acknowledgment that what I have contributed hasn't done anything (or at least not much) for you. | | Back to Top | | |
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quest for truth
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| Posted 6/1/2004 7:42 AM (GMT -6) | | POW, I love your contributions on this board! I love the pictures you've posted. Art adds much and that's why I like these little smilies.      | | Back to Top | | |
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ataraxia
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| Posted 6/1/2004 7:46 AM (GMT -6) | | POW-
I've removed the identity of Modes of Thought. Let's not reveal the identity of members.
Thanks,
ataraxia | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/1/2004 8:07 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by ataraxia
POW-
I've removed the identity of Modes of Thought. Let's not reveal the identity of members.
Thanks,
ataraxia
Thanks. Unfortunately the name (under which he wrote on "Edgren") come to mind before his handle here. Thanks for fixing that for me. I appreciate it a whole lot! Cudos. | | Back to Top | | |
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ataraxia
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| Posted 6/1/2004 8:10 AM (GMT -6) | | POW,
Thanks.
Maybe it’s just me, but I thought the manner in which you made reference to Semeia, Iconoclast, and Doc was inappropriate. I’m having a difficult time with it. I’m trying to do better at deciding when to step in, but would you mind removing the portion of your post prior to the picture, or would you like me to do it?
I don’t mind at all your commenting that you think the board was edgy or that you found certain members to be edgy, but to name members and the specifics about discussions held long ago was, I thought, a chord played out of tune. Just say you thought that particular issues brought out the edginess in some members, yourself included, and that’ll be fine. But don’t name names at this point and reopen the boxes. Know what I mean?
I appreciate it.
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PotOnWheel
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Tiggers
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| Posted 6/1/2004 8:26 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by quest for truth
Tiggers, OUCH, you hurt me. I started this thread and I don't even get mentioned in on your list of Major Props to:
TGB, Lee, BBB, JeffScott, Feelinhole, POW, VicoryWord, Moon_River, 1Way, JohnEarp, Tigress & DLW, BadgerVol, RossFadeinandout, Laika, StarkMan, Selah, etc.
Perhaps my posts have been overlooked or insignificant and that's why I wasn't included in on the list and perhaps you didn't notice who started this thread... But, hey, if you have something personally against me I'd like to hear it here otherwise I will just take being left out as a source of acknowledgment that what I have contributed hasn't done anything (or at least not much) for you.
Hey quest for truth,
On the real,  I'm fully sorry and love your insights on this board, truly. I new I would forget some important contributors to this site, dag! Ya know it was just from the top of my head that I spurted off some names...please know that this does not mean your insights (or others not mentioned in my post) are not stimulating or challenging.
I truly felt your advice to badgervol, and thought you were right on (thoughts & prayers thread), i.e., we need to question what we believe…it seems so often that people equate themselves with the theology they hold (e.g., I am an Open Theist, Calvinist, Arminian, Process, etc.). Just on a side note, I hate it when people who come on this board and label us as “Boydians”, or “Followers of Boyd” seriously…think about it, I would think it would also make Greg a bit ticked off as well just knowing he is a follower of Christ and teaches all us to do the same, ya know (ok, ok, enough ranting). My point is, Quest, your pseudonym rocks and fits your writing well. You always seem to integrate the spiritual (i.e. heart) with the intellectual to keep us all in perspective here at C.V. You are always someone who enters the prayer threads for others (i.e. praying for others). Thank you for challenging me to be a better Christian (please know that I’m being real with you). Again, sorry for not including you.
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers 
PS
Check my post again, !
“The notion that God uses evils as a means to such higher goods is, … incompatible with the doctrine that he is omnipotent, and therefore does not need to use deplorable means to achieve his ends” (J.L. Mackie). | | Back to Top | | |
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John Earp
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| Posted 6/1/2004 9:09 AM (GMT -6) | | It seems to me that we often will project our own "edginess" (insert--feelings of insecurity/security, angst, frustration, etc.) on others.
It also seems to me that interacting on the internet has a unique way of facilitating "edginess;" that is, it seems all too easy to get offended in this medium by words that, could we hear the tone of voice and see the facial expression of the speaker, would likely seem much less offensive to us.
Also, one thing I have really come to understand through my involvement in internet discussions is that we seem to identify our SELVES with our beliefs to such a degree that it is well nigh impossible to NOT get upset with others who may be challenging what we hold dear. Even still, it is crucial for our sanity and objectivity that we try to maintain a distinction between another's beliefs and their worth as a person.
My 2c
"The Discovery of new truth will modify old views and opinions, and there is perhaps no end to this process with finite minds in any world." Charles G. Finney, Systematic Theology.
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PotOnWheel
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quest for truth
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| Posted 6/1/2004 10:12 AM (GMT -6) | | Tiggers,
Thank you so much for your feedback and words of encouragement. I appreciate hearing feedback both good and bad. I want to know if I am making any difference here. I understand that you couldn't remember everyone, the only hard part for me in this particular case was that I started this thread so I thought "maybe" I'd come to mind easily... Thank you and I recieve your apology. Peace!
Ataraxiaquote:
Maybe it’s just me, but I thought the manner in which you made reference to Semeia, Iconoclast, and Doc was inappropriate. I’m having a difficult time with it. I’m trying to do better at deciding when to step in, but would you mind removing the portion of your post prior to the picture, or would you like me to do it?
I don’t mind at all your commenting that you think the board was edgy or that you found certain members to be edgy, but to name members and the specifics about discussions held long ago was, I thought, a chord played out of tune. Just say you thought that particular issues brought out the edginess in some members, yourself included, and that’ll be fine. But don’t name names at this point and reopen the boxes. Know what I mean?
Ataraxia, I fully appreciate having someone who monitors what is posted. Thank you for your work on this board
I agree that it is not necessary for the cause here to point out specific individuals. Just for the record, the names POW mentioned have been posters who have REALLY helped me to think and grow in my own beliefs and spiritual convictions. I have appreciated and now miss them so much!
Personally, I TRULY enjoyed and still enjoy the edginess!
John Earp quote:
it is crucial for our sanity and objectivity that we try to maintain a distinction between another's beliefs and their worth as a person
AMEN! This type of interaction can be so difficult because it is hard to sometimes separate. The hardest part is we are not able to fully enter into the communication process and we sometimes discuss such firey topics. | | Back to Top | | |
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/1/2004 10:17 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by quest for truth
Just for the record, the names POW mentioned have been posters who have REALLY helped me to think and grow in my own beliefs and spiritual convictions. I have appreciated and now miss them so much!
Me too.
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 6/1/2004 11:08 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Originally posted by DLW
It might be worth considering that if CVM isn't going to invest as much in the board that the board become a sub-forum specialized on OVTheism at another board, like TheologyWeb, which does have a good number of OVTheists in its leadership, though they tend to be dispensationalists.
dlw
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