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Laika
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   Posted 7/7/2004 5:45 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You nightowls take a look at it, I'll probably remove it in the morning.



inside you the time moves and she don't fade
the ghost in you she don't fade

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quest for truth
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   Posted 7/7/2004 6:09 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Laika,
The sound on this particular computer wasn't working but the heading of this topic did bring up a question I'd like to ask here. Some people are so opposed to God that they say there is no God yet MANY people feel so empty deep inside that they look for meaning yet if they are opposed to God they look elsewhere in such things as Wicca.

If you knew of a person who was opposed to God and were exploring Wicca how would you evangelize with them? Let's say you had a close relationship with the person and knew they were angry with God due to hurt hence they had decided to look at other world religions such as Wicca or Buddhism? How would you approach them? Anyone?

Thanks.
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1Heart
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   Posted 7/7/2004 7:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by quest for truth

Laika,
The sound on this particular computer wasn't working but the heading of this topic did bring up a question I'd like to ask here. Some people are so opposed to God that they say there is no God yet MANY people feel so empty deep inside that they look for meaning yet if they are opposed to God they look elsewhere in such things as Wicca.

If you knew of a person who was opposed to God and were exploring Wicca how would you evangelize with them? Let's say you had a close relationship with the person and knew they were angry with God due to hurt hence they had decided to look at other world religions such as Wicca or Buddhism? How would you approach them? Anyone?

Thanks.



With love and prayer.

(On Holidays...sneaking this one in)
God Bless,
Jo-Anne Cool


"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."

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barryatk
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   Posted 7/8/2004 5:41 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by moon_river_j

[quote]Originally posted by quest for truth

Laika,
The sound on this particular computer wasn't working but the heading of this topic did bring up a question I'd like to ask here. Some people are so opposed to God that they say there is no God yet MANY people feel so empty deep inside that they look for meaning yet if they are opposed to God they look elsewhere in such things as Wicca.

If you knew of a person who was opposed to God and were exploring Wicca how would you evangelize with them? Let's say you had a close relationship with the person and knew they were angry with God due to hurt hence they had decided to look at other world religions such as Wicca or Buddhism? How would you approach them? Anyone?

Thanks.



With love and prayer.

(On Holidays...sneaking this one in)
God Bless,
Jo-Anne Cool
Hey All Barryatk here. Good Morning!
I'm close to this subject. My dad, a protestant minister 44 years is a very liberal man. Until the last 2-3 years we weren't very close as I felt i SHOULD challenge his beliefs. He has the degrees in theology and such, who was I to say anything? Well. Today we are closer, much. I stopped the challenges. We acknowledge the different viewpoints, knowing there is strong disagreement with each others basic convictions. But we're talking. We're sharing things from our lives and history. There are other subjects besides spiritual beliefs. Sometimes the best sharing of Jesus is "listening in his Name". My dad still intrigues me. I'm still reverent of his position. So I'd rather have it this way... we talk, love, share, compare(some), and want God's best for each other. He visited me from his home 1000 miles away, came to my church, where I lead worship, listened to a pastor he knew was much opposed to my dad's liberal theology and still I think it was a great moment for all.
SO yes, Jo-anne we pray, we love, we invite into our lives even those who no way agree with our doctrines. The Holy Spirit is the Convictor, He may use me to say something, and he also may lead me to just be a friend and a good son. I do ask prayer for my dad, Jack.
In Christ,
Barry
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quest for truth
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   Posted 7/8/2004 7:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Jo-Anne and Barry, thank you for your response! I agree with both of you that the most important thing to do is to love and pray. I will be praying for Jack. Your relationship sounds beautiful now.
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Blood Washed Heretic
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   Posted 7/9/2004 6:43 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Do you think this "liberal" pastor is lost???

I guess I need a definition of "liberal". Are we talking politically, or does he deny the divinity of Christ or the Resurrection or something?

Because you know, being an Open Theist is enough to get you painted "liberal" in some circles.


In essentials, unity; In matters of opinion, liberty; In all things, love.

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barryatk
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   Posted 7/9/2004 7:28 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by Blood Washed Heretic

Do you think this "liberal" pastor is lost???

I guess I need a definition of "liberal". Are we talking politically, or does he deny the divinity of Christ or the Resurrection or something?

Because you know, being an Open Theist is enough to get you painted "liberal" in some circles.


Barry Here:
Yes, Mr. Heretic, liberal here means denial of salvation thru Jesus' Blood, the virgin birth, the resurrection, ie. all the Apostles Creed doctrines.
And these denials are far more common the the average pew-sitter would ever know. My dad also reads and admires many in New Age and other false religions.
He has befriended a newly released convict who is Wiccan. Attended this Wiccan's marriage, believes much of the religion is ok.
So I am saying I believe he is lost to Christ. But I hold out hope that at any moment the truth may interrupt his thought... it did mine at 21 years old.
I'm just saying I think it far better to have a loving relationship with dialogue and not center just on our disagreements but on our family closeness. I don't let just anything pass and I Don't always comment every chance I get on things that disturb. I have boldly given my testimony and feel released by the Holy Spirit not to constantly Jab at my dad.
If I had, I doubt he'd have come to my church back a few weeks ago. \I doubt we'd have had a heart to heart while he was here either. So. In general I'm slower to get in anybody's face and atr the same time, I'm quicker to bring up my faith and hope to anyone.
The people I know who have the greatest reputations as evangelists are usually the most obnoxious people...they may have "salvations" but I don't see anyone much just wantiong to "hang out" with these guys.
I do hang out with folks that are problematic, I get challenged occasionaly, and I love then and count them friends. I am glad that I have learned not to be confrontational before first being open and friendly.
God Bless All
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Blood Washed Heretic
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   Posted 7/9/2004 8:36 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Cool.

I wasn't trying to be combative, just clarify.

Sounds like you've got a good handle on things. My work here is done. Simp_Janitor


In essentials, unity; In matters of opinion, liberty; In all things, love.

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