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Leviathan
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Date Joined Sep 2004
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Posted 9/16/2004 1:45 PM (GMT -6)

Lets go people lets get this forum moving...tell your friends!!

Get involved in the convo... Even if you are wrong, speak up!
Posts sitting there all day just waiting for you reply.

How was your day?

Neat Photos?

What kind of cigar you are going to smoke tonite?

If you are driving down the road, and someone wants to cut in... do you let them? What if they have on a WELLSTONE or KERRY bumper sticker? Big Smile

Kublai Khan
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Date Joined Aug 2004
Total Posts : 93

Posted 9/16/2004 3:36 PM (GMT -6)

I'm wrong? You're wrong!!!!

A picture?

If someone wants to cut in, I usually let them.
I don't take it personally, they need to get over, usually, and what's the point of trying to prevent that?

"Arrest the usual suspects."

Leviathan
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Date Joined Sep 2004
Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/16/2004 3:41 PM (GMT -6)

I'm not wrong...

Kublai Khan
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Posted 9/16/2004 3:45 PM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Leviathan

I'm not wrong...

Paper or plastic?

Styrofoam cup or pint glass?

MaryAnn or Ginger?

Eric Clapton or Duane Allman?

"Arrest the usual suspects."

Leviathan
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Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/16/2004 7:13 PM (GMT -6)

KK,
plastic...more sturdy

Pint glass for sure!

Maryann...I go for the innocent exterior

Eric Clapton or Duane Allman? tough one... other then christian rock, more of a 80's fan some late 70's. But between the two Clapton

How I score?

Kublai Khan
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Total Posts : 93

Posted 9/17/2004 1:54 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Leviathan

KK,
plastic...more sturdy

paper, i can burn it in the firepit

quote:

Pint glass for sure!

a wise man

quote:

Maryann...I go for the innocent exterior

a wise man

quote:

Eric Clapton or Duane Allman? tough one... other then christian rock, more of a 80's fan some late 70's. But between the two Clapton

eh, skydog!!!

quote:

How I score?

Rohypnol

oh, the test?

2 for 4

"Arrest the usual suspects."

Leviathan
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Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/17/2004 3:16 AM (GMT -6)

KK,

I would like you to rethink my plastic choice.

When you use plastic instead of paper you can fit alot more on your plate... and when thrown in a fire pit it does melt, with cool colors!

I don't get the 'skydog'

Kublai Khan
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Total Posts : 93

Posted 9/17/2004 3:33 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Leviathan
I don't get the 'skydog'

Duane "Skydog" Allman

"Arrest the usual suspects."

Leviathan
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Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/17/2004 3:49 AM (GMT -6)

OOOHHHH....SKYDOG!

That's mid-70's....you much be WAY older than me! Big Smile

Kublai Khan
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Posted 9/17/2004 4:00 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Leviathan

OOOHHHH....SKYDOG!

That's mid-70's....you much be WAY older than me!

He died in 1971.

I've even older than the grandfather of the guy you thought I was.

I have opinions older than you.

"Arrest the usual suspects."

Mayflower
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Date Joined Mar 2002
Total Posts : 445

Posted 9/17/2004 8:12 AM (GMT -6)

.
Leviathan wrote:

quote:
If you are driving down the road, and someone wants to cut in... do you let them? What if they have on a WELLSTONE or KERRY bumper sticker?

I have a Wellstone bumper sticker.
Approve

Peace & blessings,
<><

P.S.
JESUS LOVES DIVERSITY!
.

Leviathan
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Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/17/2004 9:27 AM (GMT -6)

May...
I'm seeing a alarming pattern...

quote:
quote:
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Leviathan wrote:
Finally- Can you be save and be a Democrate?
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Answer: Yes.

Now this...

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I have a Wellstone bumper sticker.

I wouldn't vote for someone who is Pro-Abortion!!!!

DLW
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Total Posts : 2457

Posted 9/17/2004 11:36 AM (GMT -6)

Wellstone was not pro-abortion. He was against making it illegal. I sent him my alternative faith-based abortion position not long before he died and he wrote me a personal letter stating his position.

I think some of it stems from his reform judaism, which I believe tends to stress relying on individual conscience over rules in personal matters.

I'll post what he wrote sometime if I can.

dlw

Niebuhr thought that sustained moral energy in politics depended on religion's power to mobilize reason along with self-transcending love. The prophetic tradition, meanwhile, gave Jews and Christians some protection against the temptation to identify their social causes with God's will. Lincoln's second inaugural address expressed the prophetic insight, "The almighty has His own purposes."

Leviathan
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Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/17/2004 11:54 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Wellstone was not pro-abortion. He was against making it illegal.

LOL...What the diff?
Don't listen to what a politician says...look at his record!!!
He feed you a line of 'you know what'!

Voted NO on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions.
-Vote on a motion to table [kill] an amendment that would repeal the ban on privately funded abortions at overseas military facilities.
Bill S 2549 ; vote number 2000-134 on Jun 20, 2000

Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions.
-This legislation, if enacted, would ban the abortion procedure in which the physician partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. [A NO vote supports abortion rights].
Status: Bill Passed Y)63; N)34; NV)3
Reference: Partial Birth Abortion Ban; Bill S. 1692 ; vote number 1999-340 on Oct 21, 1999

Everyone will tell you there are not 'PRO-ABORTION' but you are either for life or death.

DLW
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Date Joined Apr 2003
Total Posts : 2457

Posted 9/17/2004 12:07 PM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Leviathan

quote:
Wellstone was not pro-abortion. He was against making it illegal.

LOL...What the diff?
Don't listen to what a politician says...look at his record!!!
He feed you a line of 'you know what'!

Voted NO on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions.
-Vote on a motion to table [kill] an amendment that would repeal the ban on privately funded abortions at overseas military facilities.
Bill S 2549 ; vote number 2000-134 on Jun 20, 2000

Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions.
-This legislation, if enacted, would ban the abortion procedure in which the physician partially delivers the fetus before completing the abortion. [A NO vote supports abortion rights].
Status: Bill Passed Y)63; N)34; NV)3
Reference: Partial Birth Abortion Ban; Bill S. 1692 ; vote number 1999-340 on Oct 21, 1999

Everyone will tell you there are not 'PRO-ABORTION' but you are either for life or death.

The PBAban did not prevent any abortions.

What really was at issue is the legal redefinition of when human personhood should begin. Wellstone thought that abortion may prove to be the lesser of two evils and that the unborn was not a human being yet and opposed making all abortions illegal again.

dlw

Leviathan
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Posted 9/17/2004 12:48 PM (GMT -6)

DLW,

I could careless what Wellstone thought... it was a vote to kill viable babies 1 inch before birth!!!

quote:
lesser of two evils and that the unborn was not a human being yet and opposed making all abortions illegal again.

How is a ban on late term abortions have ANYTHING to do with "making all abortions illegal"???

Are you playing devel's advocate or do you believe this crap?
...the unborn was not a human being yet... Good lord!!

THEY ARE HOLDING THE BABY IN THE WOMB TO KILL IT AND SUCK THE BRAINS OUT BEFORE THEY DELIEVER

Sahid
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Posted 9/18/2004 12:45 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
quote:
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Wellstone was not pro-abortion. He was against making it illegal.
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LOL...What the diff?
Don't listen to what a politician says...look at his record!!!
He feed you a line of 'you know what'!

I'm not pro-homosexuality, but I'm against outlawing gay marriage. I'm not pro-drugs, but I'm against prohibition. I'm not pro-Steven Curtis Chapman, but I'm against making his music illegal. I'm not pro-divorce, but I'm against making it illegal. I'm not pro-suicide, but I'm against making it illegal. I'm not pro-lottery, but I'm against making it illegal.

Just because a majority is against something, doesn't give them a moral imperative to make that thing illegal.

IMHO, majority rule is just a pretty version of might-makes-right.

Watch me fly. Freedom like wings and I will use them. Freedom like wings and I will spread them wide. - Stavesacre

Leviathan
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Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/20/2004 4:48 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Sahid
I'm not pro-homosexuality,

Sounds like it to me!!!

Are you against banning late term abortion?

rossfadeinout
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Date Joined Oct 2002
Total Posts : 428

Posted 9/20/2004 5:34 AM (GMT -6)

I'm not pro-rape, but I'm against making rape illegal....

There has to be a line drawn somewhere in the "Just because a majority is against something, doesn't give them a moral imperative to make that thing illegal" argument.

Right?

Ross

"Let us remember how common the folly is of going from one faulty extreme into the opposite." -Thomas Reid

Leviathan
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Date Joined Sep 2004
Total Posts : 82

Posted 9/20/2004 5:55 AM (GMT -6)

your not pro-gun...Do you want to make that illegal?

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