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|  PotOnWheel Registered Member

Date Joined Jul 2001 Total Posts : 9890 | Posted 9/15/2004 1:02 AM (GMT -6) |   | artraxia, check "Life-Creating Cross of the Lord again.
Thanks,
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 |  billzbob Registered Member
 Date Joined Jul 2004 Total Posts : 82 | Posted 9/15/2004 1:45 AM (GMT -6) |   | Artraxia, I've posted no further quotes, or pictures.
I've only discussed with you.
Yet you blocked my name.
When I grew up we donsidered that unfair and unjust. (We had a name for it.)
I posted THIS for JEE:
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quote: Originally posted by JEE
quote: Originally posted by PotOnWheel
God wills that there be evil. Although God did not create evil, God clearly wills, according to Christian scripture and tradition, that evil and sickedness exist. The fathers, interpreting scripture, make this subtle point by saying that though God does not eill evil metaphycisally, God certainly does will evil providentially. This is proven by God creating those he kew would be evil.
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The argument assumes that which it needs to prove; i.e., that God knew with absolute certainty that moral evil would be chosen. Also, it a confusion of terms to say God "wills" something and yet does not cause that something. If my daughter disobeys me, I did not "will" her to disobey me, nor did I permit or allow her to disobey me; she has simply exercised her self-determining freedom. As you said, evil's origin is creaturely choice.
i wouild like to discuss this, JEE.
I have two short quotes from Hopko that I will post later, probably today.
I really want your input.
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 |  ataraxia Registered Member
 Date Joined Oct 2003 Total Posts : 67 | Posted 9/15/2004 3:24 AM (GMT -6) |   | POW,
When you wondered whether you should find another discussion board, I agreed. I think you should, at least for a while.
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