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Tiggers
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Posted 12/23/2004 5:32 AM (GMT -6)

Hey All,
Aughhhhhhhhhhh.....What's this, the End? No way! This cafe is too

educational! I mean I'm gone for a few days and I come back to read this...what?

OK, TGB could you please post me the address for the openview discussion that you will be having, i.e., if I'm invited? Dag Doc, I love you man and I've said this before but I wouldn't be where I am today if it weren't for you (i.e., Student Ministry Pastor)! You most likely don't even remember me from classes and what not, but isn't it the coolest thing to know that even those you didn't really know have been so utterly affected by God's work through you (and I say this in the most open view way, King’s kid Wink

).

Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers

PS
I’ll Miss All of You…While I don’t write very much, well, I sure do read a great deal! God bless ya!

“The notion that God uses evils as a means to such higher goods is, … incompatible with the doctrine that he is omnipotent, and therefore does not need to use deplorable means to achieve his ends” (J.L. Mackie).

selah
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Posted 12/23/2004 5:50 AM (GMT -6)

I loved it when my friend sent me a joke and I re-posted it on the giggle thread. It was the look closely and turn up your computer real loud ghost that went BOO!

FINALLY, I got GREG. ANd... I got MOUSE to boot! I laughed out loud just imagining them. good stuff.

Oh, and I loved Greg's (highly medicated) "captains log" ramblings - post surgery in 2003...and his rap about Mephi...

too much to list.

love you guys,
selah
ps Leila, great to see you. I think of you often.
Merry Christmas to you and yours!

"When we acknowledge that all of life is sacred and that each act is an act of choice and therefore sacred, then life is a sacred dance lived consciously each moment. When we live at this level, we participate in the creation of a better world."

Scout Cloud Lee

Tom
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Posted 12/23/2004 10:24 AM (GMT -6)

Cool thoughts everyone.

So, Selah, I look like God to you? Wow. Oh, that was ataraxia you mean? Not TGB? Awww. Others have different images of ataraxia. Wink

It sure was fun!

I think the funniest thread has to be the Bobbie Vortex thread. To write that one I actually stood to my feet and turned in a circle as fast as I could, getting as dizzy as I could, and then quickly sat down and, with my head spinning, wrote my responses to Bobble (see I'm doing it agaain! It's Bobbie!).

The Carlie thread was one of the most meaningful to me. That really took us in some interesting directions.

And the thread which, over time, had a big impact on me was the Feminism thread. That was in the early days. Chelsea really challenged the way I thought and talked about women. Since then I make it a real effort to watch for that stuff. And I still have the honor of being the ONLY member to use "she" for God. Thanks to Chelsea.

The most beautiful writing award goes to Semeia.

The most left of field but in the end challenging and not-so-left-of-field thinking (in my mind) goes to Iconoclast.

Eternal thanks to Springs for coaching me back into the freedom to cry. I do so pretty easily now, after more than 25 years without a tear. Thanks Sis.

Selah, don't you just love this Florida weather? I love it!

Tom

Tom
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Posted 12/23/2004 10:27 AM (GMT -6)

Oh yeah, about the future.

If and when a new discussion site opens up, my guess is the best way to alert everybody would be for Greg to post a small note with the new URL on the CVM Homepage. Looks like things might keep going, but it's not certain. Keep a watch out.

Tom

trosie
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Total Posts : 550

Posted 12/23/2004 10:56 AM (GMT -6)

My most memorable moments... Ah! They are so many that it's hard to even list them all!

I enjoyed those "THREES!!!" Doc, I hope someday you are able to use all the material you’ve collected. Smile

I laughed at the great rap that Doc posted. Big Smile

I needed the humor. Springs used to be great at that. Ha! Tongue

I loved the threads that were started just for humor and the ones with the cute children’s quotes. Clown

I enjoyed the beautiful art work from POW and the funny pictures from Laika (Gosh, some of them made me laugh so hard!)

Secretly I’ve at times confused some pseudonyms. I confused Tiggers with Tigress; Shine150 with Shine; DLW with BJS; Gerry Attrick with barry atk; John Earp with JEE (are you the same person?); Starkman with Sparknheart; Timlings with Tim; reasonable doubt with feelinahole…. (Hmmm, would that be sort by sameness or difference?) Blush

I loved the way Semeia wrote -- hopefully she will someday put her giftedness into books, if she hasn’t already. The style in which she wrote made me feel as though I were seeing more than just words on the screen. I enjoyed living through the trip she took up north to watch the stars with her family.

I enjoyed how Selah always ended her posts with a loving salutation. Kisses

I appreciated the passion in which so many people wrote their convictions and beliefs such as TGB, JEE, spenlake, Mephi, moon river j, writer dad, POW, Semeia, Shell, jefscott, BJS, Empiress, Electra, Lock, riskell,…. actually everyone!

I loved the tender love that was displayed by posters such as Di, Jo-Anne, Mayflower, Leila... Nurse

I respected posters such as Iconoclast and BJS for staying centered and looking at the whole in what was being addressed. Cool

I appreciated Might-be-don’s open honesty about church…. Bandit

Sparknheart and BBB always inspired me with their gentle approach on threads. Bandit2

Tigress put things into perspective quite a few times by her authentic realness. Shy

Again, Greg, thank you for making this temporary place where we all were able to explore our theology, philosophy, and share in our concerns in life along with you! I think I take for granted (after reading Jo-Annes posts) how much of a privelege it is to go to the church of an author who has been instrumental in transforming much of my theology. I feel I have gained much from all the posts I‘ve read. You rock! King

Thank you all. I pray that you will feel God’s presence with you through your journey in this life until you are able to break through and enter into the eternal where we can only imagine what awaits us! Smile

Sincerely,
trosie/questfortruth

JEE
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Posted 12/23/2004 11:11 AM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by trosie
John Earp with JEE (are you the same person?);

(In my best Shrek impersonation) "That would be me."

John Earp (JEE)

http://revivaltheology.net

CalvinnHobbes
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Posted 12/23/2004 4:12 PM (GMT -6)

Farewell all. This board has been great. I haven't involved myself to any great extent, I suppose, but I've REALLY appreciated the intelligent discussion. If nothing else, I believe I've learned more here about TACTFUL philosophical debate than I have anywhere else. Thank you very much particularly to Alan (send me your dissertation!!!), Greg, and Tom for blending brilliance with clarity and courtesy. Not that others have not done so, but you guys were the three I followed most closely. I'm not an open theist, but I consider you all brothers and tremendous assets to the kingdom of Christ.

Best Wishes,

Shane Moe

"The longer I live, the more I read, the more patiently I think, and the more anxiously I inquire, the less I seem to know." ~President John Adams

scott_jorgenson
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Posted 12/24/2004 10:23 AM (GMT -6)

I'll certainly miss these forums and the opportunity to discuss with you folks. Greg Boyd, thanks to you and your supporters for launching this and putting up with it for so long.

For the calendar-impaired like myself - when exactly is the Last Day then?

Scott

Violin for God
Luke, I am your father. --Nooooooooo!!!!!

Date Joined Dec 2004
Total Posts : 690

Posted 12/26/2004 12:08 PM (GMT -6)

Yeah, Doc, thanks for a great board. Now when the new one starts, you'll pop in every once in a while, right?.............Right???..........................RIGHT?!!????

(Also, for everyone, one of the things I really like about this board is that people actually reply fairly quickly, and also the threads don't get flooded with posts as to make it nearly impossible to keep track, like other boards I've seen)

Modes of Thought
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Posted 12/28/2004 9:11 AM (GMT -6)

Hmmm, lots of great history here. I really liked the discussions that wrestled with nominalism and realism. I am no longer a nominalist as a result. Never saw that coming!

And of course, any conversation that I could find a way to drag Kierkegaard into was great in my book!

Bless you all,
Modes

"I don't feel a real urgent burden to get all the details of my ethics worked out until I've got the profundity of my love worked out in a Christ-like way." --doc

kingsaint
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Posted 12/28/2004 10:47 AM (GMT -6)

I would like to thank everyone involved with this site. I have learned a great much. I hope someone starts another like it. You people have really mirrored the mind of Jesus. Thank you too Dr. Boyd for your thought and world-view. It has changed my life. Thanks to you too TGB, you are the salt and the light--keep it up!

God bless,

David

"Nobody who omits doing good works nowadays does so in order not to be tempted to become self-righteous; he omits it because it is easier."

--Philip Merlan, "Toward the Understanding of Kierkegaard"

Tom
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Posted 12/28/2004 3:43 PM (GMT -6)

Modes? A realist? I gotta get up to St. Paul this Spring and check this out!

Tom Bandit

Tom
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Posted 12/28/2004 3:48 PM (GMT -6)

Since the big day is around the corner, here's my good-bye to all. Love and peace fill and overflow your loves, one and all. Blessings on you and your families, and may God make us all a blessing to the nations!

Peace,
Tom

Similitude
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Posted 12/28/2004 4:14 PM (GMT -6)

Same to you Tom and all!! And thanks, Doc, for hosting this opportunity. It has certainly been profitable for me! I only regret that I found it so late in the game. Disapprove

wjs

spenlake
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Posted 12/29/2004 2:32 AM (GMT -6)

Good bye to all of you. I won't be following the new site. I entered this site because a dear friend of mine began attending Woodland Hills with his family. I was concerned with what I heard and saw. I visited myself to better understand him. I did hear the gospel while I was there and was grateful for this.

I think, however, that while the world-view of OV may not necessarily be fatal it does color everything and there are few that have as good a grasp on its "limits" as Tom. I think that there are forms of OV that are just as destructive as what it is opposing. That is just my opinion and I don't mean this as an attack on the integrity of those who defend the position. I simply believe that you are promoting a weaker view of God than what scriptures describe to us. I find the offense that is taken to an all-powerful and foreknowing God, in light of the problem of evil, is actually an offense towards the gospel. People create "work-arounds" but the gospel is offensive.

My friend has now left Woodland Hills and started a new church with several other families in Hopkins. I guess this is the reason that I am letting go and not following the board. I consider many of you friends and have appreciated the disagreements. You have all taught me much. Thank you.

Spen Lake

Tom
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Posted 12/29/2004 3:09 AM (GMT -6)

It was a rough start, Spen, but over time things improved. I appreciate the attitude of your post, being able to consider us friends and brothers and sisters in Christ.

Blessings,
Tom

BemaBound
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Posted 12/29/2004 10:08 AM (GMT -6)

I haven't had time to visit this board in a while, and am sad to see it closing. This is the best discussion board I've seen. To all who were involved in putting this together - those who had the vision for this, the creativity to develop such a user friendly discussion board - THANK YOU! The interaction has helped me develop my thoughts, ideas, communication skills and my theology about the open view. Again, thanks for the ride.

Michael

Tigress
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Posted 12/29/2004 11:05 AM (GMT -6)

What's the name of this new website gonna be? I'll need to know the address by tomorrow night because I won't have e-mail access until Monday of next week and obviously by that time the Christus Victor Ministries website will be no more.

Or are the new managers of that site going to e-mail all of us using our e-mail addresses from this site? Please let me know. Thanks!

Tigress

"Name a shrub after me. Preferably one that's prickly and difficult to eradicate."

-Captain Jack Aubrey
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World"

1Heart
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Posted 12/29/2004 12:48 PM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by Tigress

What's the name of this new website gonna be? I'll need to know the address by tomorrow night because I won't have e-mail access until Monday of next week and obviously by that time the Christus Victor Ministries website will be no more.

Or are the new managers of that site going to e-mail all of us using our e-mail addresses from this site? Please let me know. Thanks!

Love that quote Tigress! Big Smile

"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."

Corey
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Posted 12/29/2004 2:13 PM (GMT -6)

The new site will be hosted at www.opentheismboard.org and I'll probably name it something real creative like "Open Theism Discussion Board" (Open to suggestions though!)

My advice is just to check there periodically. There are so many inactive members of this site and I'm not sure they would welcome being "spammed" when the new site comes online. I'm also hoping that CVM will link to the new site for a little while to make the transition smoother.

If I get a chance tonight I'll write a thing on www.opentheismboard.org to let people register to be notified by email when the new site is online.

SpiritusNaturae
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Date Joined Oct 2004
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Posted 1/1/2005 4:28 PM (GMT -6)

quote:
Originally posted by CJF

The new site will be hosted at www.opentheismboard.org and I'll probably name it something real creative like "Open Theism Discussion Board" (Open to suggestions though!)

My advice is just to check there periodically. There are so many inactive members of this site and I'm not sure they would welcome being "spammed" when the new site comes online. I'm also hoping that CVM will link to the new site for a little while to make the transition smoother.

If I get a chance tonight I'll write a thing on www.opentheismboard.org to let people register to be notified by email when the new site is online.

I definetely would be okay with recieving some 'spam' involving OVT Discussion. There is a small OVT contingent over at www.theologyweb.com. Come check it out if you like. I'll spread the word there about the new site. I am sad to see this one come to an end. I've been a lurker since October and have gleaned alot of info and learned how to defend my view even further thanks to many posters here.

God bless you all and remember, "It's all about Christ...and Him crucified."

Jonathan

"His answer to your giving is the renewed and always deeper surrender of Himself to you.
According to Your Word, my Lord and King, I am Yours, and all that I have. Every day, this day, I will confirm it. I am not my own, but am my Lord's. Fervently I implore You to take full possession of Your property so that no one may doubt whose I am. Amen." - Andrew Murray

Mayflower
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Posted 1/2/2005 6:06 AM (GMT -6)

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We sincerely thank you...
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Christus Victor Ministries Discussion:

Greg & Shelley Boyd: A Tribute to "The Boyd Team"
http://gregboyd.org/gbfront/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3972
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