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Corey
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   Posted 12/26/2004 1:28 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by TGB
My idea is that new members be required to provide a REAL working email address, to which the moderator would then send a password
. . .
I think email addresses should regularly be checked to insure that they're working addresses. If not, members should be banned.
I agree completely and will make sure this is implemented.
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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 12/26/2004 2:34 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sounds like a very good idea.
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JEE
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   Posted 12/26/2004 11:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
While I would certainly agree that accountability of some kind ought to be pursued as a general principle of governing the new board, it is still quite easy for a person to simply create several free email accounts (like Yahoo mail, etc.) if they wanted to. So, while Tom's suggestion is a good one, it would only make it a little more difficult to post without accountability.

Even if you were to make it a subscription-based, "members only" kind of forum, you still would have to deal with the problem of members getting out of line at times. A discussion board or email group or any other kind of internet discussion forum simply must be fairly closely moderated if any semblance of order and civility is to prevail. This is especially true when dealing with highly volatile and emotionally laden topics such as theology, religion, politics, etc.

MNSHO,

John


http://revivaltheology.net

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Tom
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   Posted 12/27/2004 12:43 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
JEE: While I would certainly agree that accountability of some kind ought to be pursued as a general principle of governing the new board, it is still quite easy for a person to simply create several free email accounts (like Yahoo mail, etc.) if they wanted to. So, while Tom's suggestion is a good one, it would only make it a little more difficult to post without accountability.

Tom: Free email accounts are fine. If a new member creates a Yahoo account just to become a member, that's fine. That's a working email. But they have to actually check that email because that's where their assigned password will be sent. If they create a Yahoo account to sign up with and never check the mail box, they don't post. If they check it JUST to get their email and then let the account die, they'll post only until the moderator checks their email account again in say, six months or so and doesn't get a response from the member, the member will be banned. When the member descovers she's now allowed to post, she'll write the moderator and say, "Hey, why am I banned?" Moderator replies, "Because I don't have a working email for you. I just wrote your Yahoo account and didn't hear back from you." Easy. I'm not talking about a "subscription" based site. I'm talking about what we already have right now, but just requiring members to keep a working email address with the moderator.

You're right though. It doesn't solve bad posting. It's not meant to. A bonified member with a working address on file can still act like a jerk...and be banned. Approve

Tom
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Corey
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   Posted 12/27/2004 5:49 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by JEE

... it is still quite easy for a person to simply create several free email accounts (like Yahoo mail, etc.) if they wanted to.

From a technology perspective, it's simple enough to impose a rule which would disallow use of known free email account providers such as hotmail, yahoo, etc. Now, would this be something we would want to do?
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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 12/27/2004 9:17 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Tom's vision of persons who responsibly CHECK their e-mail is where I think your benchmark should be.

Remember that students do not have money. But they do have time, and daring. Cool Be student friendly, if at all possible.
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1Heart
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   Posted 12/29/2004 8:52 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Corey,

I've just been assigned the somewhat daunting task of setting up a discussion/communication board for our elders' council. I was wondering if you might be able to give me some assistance/advice regarding this.

Also, I know time is drawing to a close rather quickly with this discussion board, and am wondering if you will notify me by e-mail of the new one when it is set up?

God Bless,

My e-mail address with the board is correct.


"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."

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Corey
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   Posted 12/29/2004 11:31 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by moon_river_j

I've just been assigned the somewhat daunting task of setting up a discussion/communication board for our elders' council. I was wondering if you might be able to give me some assistance/advice regarding this.
I see that JEE has experience setting up a site on www.phpbbcity.com/; That might be the easiest route for your purposes.

quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j

Also, I know time is drawing to a close rather quickly with this discussion board, and am wondering if you will notify me by e-mail of the new one when it is set up?
The new site will be hosted at www.opentheismboard.org My best advice is just to check there periodically. There are so many inactive members of this site and I'm not sure they would welcome being "spammed" by me when the new site comes online. I'm also hoping that CVM will link to our site for a little while to make the transition smoother.
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1Heart
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   Posted 12/29/2004 12:03 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by CJF

quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j

I've just been assigned the somewhat daunting task of setting up a discussion/communication board for our elders' council. I was wondering if you might be able to give me some assistance/advice regarding this.
I see that JEE has experience setting up a site on www.phpbbcity.com/; That might be the easiest route for your purposes.

quote:
Originally posted by moon_river_j

Also, I know time is drawing to a close rather quickly with this discussion board, and am wondering if you will notify me by e-mail of the new one when it is set up?
The new site will be hosted at www.opentheismboard.org My best advice is just to check there periodically. There are so many inactive members of this site and I'm not sure they would welcome being "spammed" by me when the new site comes online. I'm also hoping that CVM will link to our site for a little while to make the transition smoother.



Thanks for both sites!
God Bless, and "see" you soon (hopefully!)
Jo-Anne


"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."

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JCsites.com
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   Posted 1/4/2005 10:47 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
All,

I absolutely LOVE Corey's idea of having some content areas restricted unless people pay for access.

CVM paid a pretty penny for me to host this board, and I still lost money. I had to back out. Corey's the perfect replacement. I see he's already improved the search engine.

But I would hazard a guess that a year or two down the road, his costs will increase as well.

If you really appreciate and frequent this board, well then you should really considering donating or agreeing to pay to "play".

This board is still up because I've been too busy to take it down. My plan is to shut it off, back up the database and make avaiable to Corey to download so he can set it up on his server. This will be a 1 or 2 day effort on my end. Not sure how long it will take corey to download and set up.

Just expect the board to be down for at least 3 days.

It was my pleasure to serve. This was an enlightening experience for sure. Blessings to all.

JC Sites Guy
a.k.a - Dave Hemminger


JC Sites Guy
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Laika
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   Posted 1/4/2005 11:04 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by JCsites.com

All,

I absolutely LOVE Corey's idea of having some content areas restricted unless people pay for access.

CVM paid a pretty penny for me to host this board, and I still lost money. I had to back out. Corey's the perfect replacement. I see he's already improved the search engine.

But I would hazard a guess that a year or two down the road, his costs will increase as well.

If you really appreciate and frequent this board, well then you should really considering donating or agreeing to pay to "play".

This board is still up because I've been too busy to take it down. My plan is to shut it off, back up the database and make avaiable to Corey to download so he can set it up on his server. This will be a 1 or 2 day effort on my end. Not sure how long it will take corey to download and set up.

Just expect the board to be down for at least 3 days.

It was my pleasure to serve. This was an enlightening experience for sure. Blessings to all.

JC Sites Guy
a.k.a - Dave Hemminger


With a plethora of free web forums available, a paid site doesn't make much sense. There's scarcely a dozen regular posters on the free site now, how much subscription money do you think you'll be generating?



inside you the time moves and she don't fade
the ghost in you she don't fade

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Corey
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   Posted 1/4/2005 12:36 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by Laika
With a plethora of free web forums available, a paid site doesn't make much sense. There's scarcely a dozen regular posters on the free site now, how much subscription money do you think you'll be generating?
I've abandoned the idea of charging for the site. My main thought there wasn't so much for covering my costs as it was for deterring multiple registrations under bogus pseudonyms.

As for my costs, I put $350 into initial setup for hardware/software, but I don't see it costing me much at all after that. I'm piggy-backing on my existing connection that I would use anyway.
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1Heart
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   Posted 1/4/2005 1:50 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by CJF

quote:
Originally posted by Laika
With a plethora of free web forums available, a paid site doesn't make much sense. There's scarcely a dozen regular posters on the free site now, how much subscription money do you think you'll be generating?
I've abandoned the idea of charging for the site. My main thought there wasn't so much for covering my costs as it was for deterring multiple registrations under bogus pseudonyms.

As for my costs, I put $350 into initial setup for hardware/software, but I don't see it costing me much at all after that. I'm piggy-backing on my existing connection that I would use anyway.



Thank you for doing this. I'd be glad to contribute.

Jo-Anne


"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."

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PotOnWheel
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   Posted 1/5/2005 1:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by JCsites.com

It was my pleasure to serve. This was an enlightening experience for sure. Blessings to all.

JC Sites Guy
a.k.a - Dave Hemminger



Thanks, Dave.
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   Posted 1/5/2005 3:49 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey CJF and JCSites,

quote:

JC Sites:
This board is still up because I've been too busy to take it down. My plan is to shut it off, back up the database and make avaiable to Corey to download so he can set it up on his server. This will be a 1 or 2 day effort on my end. Not sure how long it will take corey to download and set up.



What kind of database is it on the backend? I have Snitz running with SQL Server 2k on my server at home and can probably help during the transition of the content to the new site. I've set up a temp site at http://ov.leoncavallo.net and I'm pretty sure the Snitz database structure is nearly the same between this version and mine. I can't promise 24x7 uptime, but I've got plenty of drive space to spare and about 256kps of free bandwith.

Let me kow if I can help.
Nick Leoncavallo
(Bubba)
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Corey
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   Posted 1/6/2005 2:35 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by Bubba
I have Snitz running with SQL Server 2k on my server at home and can probably help during the transition of the content to the new site.
At this point I'm just waiting to receive the data from Dave; my server is all set up and ready to go.

Preview: www.opentheismboard.org/beta (temporary playground... everything will be deleted here when the real site comes online.

Thanks anyway for the offer!

Corey

P.S. I'm sticking to Microsoft-based products since I'm an MCSD, MCSE and can best customize the code this way.
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   Posted 1/6/2005 3:15 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Corey,
Can you come up with a better name for the new site? “opentheismboard.org” is too restrictive. Can we brainstorm and come up with a name that encompasses the diversity of this current site? Else, I’m afraid you will end up with a ghost town. Sleepy


Thanks,

Mark
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Corey
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   Posted 1/6/2005 6:40 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I came up with that name off-the-cuff and haven't received much input from people if it should be something different. Hey, it was an available domain name! That's about all.

But I also would offer that it's a pretty good fit; it denotes the general topic of the board. Something like theologydiscussionboard.org seems too generic. When one goes to a church, it usually has some sort of moniker attached with it: Methodist, Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, etc. It gives people a general idea of where they're coming from. And of course, like a church, anyone is welcome.
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   Posted 1/6/2005 7:14 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by sparknheart

Hi Corey,
Can you come up with a better name for the new site?


How about

CallDownFireOnUsHereticsHere.com

Question

or DepositYourOpenLetterToHereticsHere.com


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1Heart
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   Posted 1/6/2005 10:32 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by Yahweh Carleone

quote:
Originally posted by sparknheart

Hi Corey,
Can you come up with a better name for the new site?


How about

CallDownFireOnUsHereticsHere.com

Question

or DepositYourOpenLetterToHereticsHere.com




Too funny! How 'bout TheOpenViewForOpenMinds.org Big Smile (justkiddinofcourse)


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   Posted 1/6/2005 1:36 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by Yahweh Carleone
How about

CallDownFireOnUsHereticsHere.com

Question

or DepositYourOpenLetterToHereticsHere.com



Here is an exclusive membership name:

MothersAgainstDeviantDeity.com

MADD.COM -- where everyone is welcome to either go MAD or go away mad.


or


RebelsWithACause.com
RebelsForChrist.com
or
CVMExiles.com

And here is one for the Yukon gal:
AAA-4-U-Jesus.com


and one for Tom:
RunawayTrainForGod.com


LFW:
1. God makes the choice for all people. Those not selected for eternal life have grounds for complaint.
2. God invites all but only some respond. Those who don't respond don't have any grounds for complaint, they got what they wanted.
- Albert Einstein, 2004

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Laika
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   Posted 1/6/2005 4:11 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
quote:
Originally posted by sparknheart
and one for Tom:
RunawayTrainForGod.com



heh




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