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Tom
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   Posted 1/15/2005 5:49 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey hey hey-
 
Corey has done us all a great favor in hosting this site and a great job in working out the bugs. Thanks! I'd like to bring up a topic for discussion. Not sure where to put this, but since it ultimately applies to every member, perhaps everybody ought to have some input. Corey, as I understood him, is happy to administrate the site but doesn't relish policing it as moderator. Perhaps we can all come up with a short policy statement that would serve as a guideline for online behavior. It would help Corey out. As administrator he's still the only person who can actually take action (tecnically) if action is to be taken regarding an unruley member. So perhaps we can all post our thoughts and give Corey something to work with.
 
My suggestions. These are not necessarily things that require disciplinary action (some are):
 
1) A per day, per week, or per month posting option for Corey to limit the number of posts a member posts. We faced this a bit at our previous address (members posting high numbers of posts, overwhelming the site so to speak).
 
2) Common sense courtesy.
 
3) Keep the "subject" the subject and not the "person" the subject. Rude, condescending, personal comments shouldn't be allowed. I think we should really stick to this (I didn't do so well on the previous site I don't think), but perhaps a three-strike policy. You get a first warning, a second, and with the third you're gone. Only Corey can issue a warning. Corey, perhaps you can form a committee of two or four (to form an odd number when including yourself) others to help you in this. Let members recommend to you via private email a member they think would serve with you. You take their top vote getter (or top two vote getters). Then you get to pick one or two of your own. Together, these members can keep an eye on things for you. If a member gets unruly and there are problems, all of your together can decide what to do. That would take the load off of you and members will know that if they ever are banned, it's not just because one person (the Administrator) made an independent decision. They'll know it was a consensus of trusted members who made the choice. Just an idea.
 
4) Some policy needs to be recognized regarding cut-n-pasting material from other sites. At our previous address we had to deal with posting swaths of material from other sites. We tried to have members post the URL only, or just a bit (paragraph) of the material. We preferred members to express things in their own words.
 
5) Banned members. This may be a sticky subject, but I'm of the opinion that THIS site should honor the list of banned members from the previous site. Corey should be able to find out who those members were and simply ban them here as well. True, this is a 'new' site, but's it's a new site 'venue'. We're all the same members and we carried over the same threads and history. I think we ought to carry over the same banned members list to avoid having to go through encountering them here and banning them again. If you were banned before on this site, you should remain banned on the new venue.
 
That's it for me.
 
Tom
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Corey
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   Posted 1/15/2005 10:53 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks so much, Tom, for starting this conversation. You're right that I really am not interested in being a moderator or making site policy decisions. I want to just serve you all in a technologist role, in the broader goal of facilitating productive discussion in regards to Open Theism.

I really value your feedback and guidance. I think it's a good suggestion to come with a oversight committee (however that should be worded).

One thought I have from a technical perspective is to have an actual FAQ for the site for people to refer to. Y'all would have to help author that. I'm thinking of putting a "wiki" online, so that anyone can contribute in authoring this or other such documents.


 

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Tom
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   Posted 1/16/2005 9:34 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The response is overwhelming!

Tom


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JEE
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   Posted 1/16/2005 4:01 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

First, I suggest we make a rule that accepted rules of spelling must be strictly followed by all. nono    

e-t-i-q-u-e-t-t-e   smilewinkgrin

n : rules governing socially acceptable behavior  

(Just kidding. I hope my rather lame attempt at humor isn't somehow taken as "rude.")  devil  

 

 

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1Heart
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   Posted 1/17/2005 2:26 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
There is one thing that I would love not to see on this board, and it is sarcasm. I don't believe that sincere questions should be answered sarcastically. This is not to anyone in particular, on any thread, but it is an observation. Unfortunately we all fall into that from time to time, but I hope that we could come up with some "Community Etiquette" here that would bring honor to the Father.

God Bless,
Jo-Anne


"Sometimes all we can do is go back to the character of God, and drop anchor there."

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Violin for God
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   Posted 1/17/2005 2:56 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I know I'm still fairly new to this board, but here are some ideas I thought of regarding this.

Tom, about your #5 (it is a sticky subject, I agree), but I'd say that if a person writes to one of the moderators/administrator or whoever and they seriously appologize, then they should be given one more chance, but informed that if they cross the line again, they would only get one warning and that would be it. This allows for forgiveness, but with a shorter leash, so to say. Other than that, I think it would be a good idea to keep the same list.

Jo-Anne, yeah, I'd say that very blatant sarcasm should be cautioned against as well, but the whole issue of what is and isn't sarcasm is also a sticky issue. Fairly often, people can misunderstand other's intentions in writing, so I think in most cases, it should be up to the individual member (IM) to ask the possibly-sarcastic-person for clarification. This issue certainly has a large grey-area, but in cases where it is blatant and divisive, then that would fall under this category of etaqite (that was for John! Jees, being a bit too inflexible about spelling, are we??? now it's my turn to have a lame attempt at humor! turn ) .


 

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might-be-don
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   Posted 1/17/2005 8:29 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
2 Timothy 2:16

"But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness."

Just a thought...

I would rather not have to look up the list of things I can and can't do before I make a post.

If the mature would follow the advice given above the rules would be unnecessary. If we don't till and fertilize the soil the undesired behavior can't grow.

Can I avoid the bad behavior in my own life, sometimes yes, sometimes no. But I try to do good.


"Life is a gift from God, but the years have weight in them."
Terry Scott Taylor

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JEE
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   Posted 1/17/2005 9:31 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If we can't have sarcasm, we can't have Laika anymore. nono 
 
As an aside, sarcasm was used by many of the biblical writers (including the Gospel writers' presentation of Jesus' statements) in order to drive home a point.
 
In recommending all these rules, you're by definition going to decrease the interest of many in participation, but that's perhaps what the intent has been all along. "Discussion" boards that restrict controversy or even sometimes heated debate generally fade away into a black hole in  cyberspace.
 
 

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Truth Aficionado
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   Posted 1/18/2005 11:07 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
JEE said...
If we can't have sarcasm, we can't have Laika anymore. nono 
 
As an aside, sarcasm was used by many of the biblical writers (including the Gospel writers' presentation of Jesus' statements) in order to drive home a point.
 
In recommending all these rules, you're by definition going to decrease the interest of many in participation, but that's perhaps what the intent has been all along. "Discussion" boards that restrict controversy or even sometimes heated debate generally fade away into a black hole in  cyberspace.
 
 

Hello John,

What do you mean?  Isn’t the hottest new forum the “Safe Haven?  <Yawn> <snore> <chirp chirp> <black hole in  cyberspace>.  

Oops, sorry for the sarcasm.

 

Peace,

Mark

 
P.S.
I’m all for zero tolerance towards those that come here with a closed mind and an axe to grind.
Swede (aka POW) has been a sweetie on this new board.
 


Matthew 11:28-30 (NRSV) 
    "Come to me, all you that are weary and are carrying heavy burdens, and I will give you rest.  Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.  For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."


 

 

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