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  |  AtTheWell Registered Member
 Date Joined Nov 2004 Total Posts : 133 | Posted 3/23/2005 3:11 PM (GMT -6) |   |
Corey said... Generally speaking, I look for the fruit of the Spirit. The Holy Spirit affirms to me or convicts me when I'm walking or not walking with Him. Spiritual maturity, then, is marked by sensitivity to the Spirit, and measured by consistency in yielding in obedience.
What do you think? This definition is inward and subjective; it doesn't necessarily produce a phenomenological checklist. It implies that "spiritual maturity" may wax and wane over the course of one's life. On this way of thinking, a young, theologically undeveloped Christian may be more mature than a seasoned theologian.
Immediate thoughts-- this makes sense to me, inward and subjective are key. I wonder, how can I measure another's spiritual maturity, really? I mean certainly there would be occasions that it would come in handy, say in choosing a pastor, leader, guide, etc... I would need fairly intimate knowledge to make this call without any reservations.
though manifestation of spiritual maturity would at least look like, sharing the good news, feeding the hungry, healing the sick, touching the lonely, being in constant communication with the Father, obedience to God...
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 |  selah Registered Member

Date Joined Oct 2001 Total Posts : 1210 | Posted 3/23/2005 3:54 PM (GMT -6) |   | present, loving, boundary holding, persevering, authentic, readily admits when wrong, christocentric, good.
off the top of my head  love selah Psalm 46:1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. 2 Therefore we will not fear, though the earth should change, though the mountains shake in the heart of the sea; 3 though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble with its tumult.... 4 There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, the holy habitation of the Most High. 5 God is in the midst of the city; it shall not be moved; God will help it when the morning dawns. 6 The nations are in an uproar, the kingdoms totter; he utters his voice, the earth melts. 7 The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. ...10 "Be still, and know that I am God! I am exalted among the nations, I am exalted in the earth." 11 The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. | | Back to Top | | |
  |  selah Registered Member

Date Joined Oct 2001 Total Posts : 1210 | Posted 3/23/2005 4:10 PM (GMT -6) |   | | | |
      |  AtTheWell Registered Member
 Date Joined Nov 2004 Total Posts : 133 | Posted 3/24/2005 1:52 PM (GMT -6) |   | | Selah said:
...and I would pay cash to anyone who finishes this paper for me 
 Ok, how much $$$ are we talkin' here?
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   |  Truth Aficionado Registered Member

Date Joined Dec 2003 Total Posts : 1544 | Posted 3/24/2005 11:16 PM (GMT -6) |   |
jefscott said...
SparknHeart said...
jefscott said...They end their posts with little pictures of angels with halos!
Ouch! Sorry, bro! Normally my sense of humor is sick. But early in the morning it is exceptionally so!!!
That's cool, Jeff. My humor is sick 24X7, but I welcome any good therapy that keeps me off my medication. The stuff has terrible side affects, you know. Like losing good hair and then growing new hair where God never meant hair to be. Not to mention the hallucinations of little angles with halos.
"Come to me, all you that are weary and are carrying heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
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   |  rossfadeinout Registered Member

Date Joined Oct 2002 Total Posts : 428 | Posted 3/26/2005 3:32 PM (GMT -6) |   | |
Hey Tom,
I would be interested in reading the discussion about LFW that you are talking about. Where was the discussion taking place?
But as a passing remark (it is off the sbject of this thread), I do not think that character solidification leads to Compatibilistic freedom. We may be unable to sin as we solidify our character towards the good, but our actions are not determined to only one path (which is my understanding of compatibalism). As an example, God cannot do evil, but I would not describe His freedom as compatibalistic. He is free to do a variety of different actions, and the choice is not determined.
What do you think?
Ross
"Let us remember how common the folly is of going from one faulty extreme into the opposite." -Thomas Reid | | Back to Top | | |
  |  Viator Registered Member
 Date Joined Mar 2005 Total Posts : 12 | Posted 3/28/2005 2:55 PM (GMT -6) |   | Ahhhh, spiritual maturity. Mother Teresa before death...she didn't think she was.. Billy Graham...he doesn't think so. Greg Boyd...he would deny being spiritually mature. In this life...spiritual maturity? To one degree or another. Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord with all you heart, soul, mind, and strength. And, you shall love your neighbor as yourself. Walking the walk...under the Lordship of Jesus....
You know, I don't know that we will ever be spiritually mature. I expect tht throughout eternity we will continue to grow in grace and knowledge....In Christ I suppose we are perfect. But....hmmmm.
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