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selah
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   Posted 5/17/2005 6:14 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello everyone,

Well, my beautiful, precious, and amazingly smart daughter is leaving me for college this summer...

One thing I want to give her for graduation is a package of five MUST READ books.

I want these to be books that nourish her (especially as she starts to differentiate from us!).

So, I want cream of the crop type stuff. The best you've ever read. "If I were left on a deserted island, I would ask for _____"
THAT kind of thing.

I'll appreciate your suggestions very much.

Thanks!

Blessings and love,
selah

reading reading reading reading reading


1 Corinthians 2:1-5
When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.

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Starkman
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   Posted 5/17/2005 1:17 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, if you on a desert island, you'd never need the books I'd recommend; there's nobody else there to worry about!

I'd go with two of Francis Schaeffer's books. He Is There and He Is Not Silent, and there's another that runs along this same vein, but I can't remember the title. Basically, Schaffer will keep her eyes open to the realities of the world's current pluralistic and relativistic thinking, which will help her (if she is a Christian) to not only make sense of the world's thinking, but see why it can never satisfy.

Schaeffer was not overwhelming in his work, which is why some philosphers and academics frowned on him. He didn't address colleagues, but the everyday joe (though it was often high intellectuals with whom he delt). This makes the book very readable, but challenging.

Well, that's my two cents worth.

Starkman


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us?

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Ochuk
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   Posted 5/17/2005 3:24 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
If she has not read CS Lewis' Till We Have Faces yet than you must buy it for her.


Read my blog at <a href="http://ochuk.gizzar.com" target="_blank">ochuk.gizzar.com</a>

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selah
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   Posted 5/18/2005 5:59 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks ochuk and starkman. I'm going to let this thread go for about a week before checking into the suggestions (in hopes that others will chime in *cough cough tgb,meph,sahid,atw,jefscott,alan,violin,corey,Jee,etc.). I haven't read the ones you guys listed, so this will be cool. Thanks again! ~selah
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AtTheWell
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   Posted 5/18/2005 8:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
AWW Selah-- you're such a great Mom!

One book from some years ago comes to mind --Sit Walk Stand by Watchman Nee


Peace,
ATW

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Starkman
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   Posted 5/18/2005 8:24 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
AtTheWell said...
AWW Selah-- you're such a great Mom!

One book from some years ago comes to mind --Sit Walk Stand by Watchman Nee

Ah, a Watchman Nee fan, eh!  Man, that book rocks! I read a lot of Nee's works some twenty-something years ago. I really should go back and re-read some of his stuff now that I'm older. He was pretty heavy, you know. I loved his Normal Christian Life.
 
Starkman


My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?"  Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us?

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   Posted 5/19/2005 3:29 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Selah,
Thanks for including me in your list:-) Unfortunately, I've never been a big reader (but I'm starting to get over it!) until recently I guess, so I don't have quite the repertoire to select from. But in regards to something else that may be useful would be a CD set called the "Ambassador's Basic Curriculum" (ABC) from a really good (IMHO) speaker named Greg Koukl. You can find it on www.str.org . Unfortunately each set is $25 and there are three sets of CD's, but I'd recommend at least getting the first set. That includes his talks on "Ambassadors for Christ: The Essential Skills", "Truth is not Ice Cream, Faith is not Wishing", "The Bible: has God Spoken?" (that one I have a couple disagreements with, but still interesting), and "Tactics in Defending the Faith".

Then if your daughter is interested, you can also ask her if she would like to sign up for a free bi-monthly newsletter from the Stand to Reason organization that help in discussing current issues in the world. Remember when the stem-cell research debate was a hot topic in the media? He wrote a really good commentary in the newsletter explaining why fundamentally it is wrong. Alan and I get that newsletter and listen to his weekly radio show on the internet. Really good stuff. Greg Koukl doesn't subscribe to the Open Future View as far as I know, but he's a fairly sharp thinker.

Anyway, hope this helps!


 

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Alan Rhoda
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   Posted 5/19/2005 5:12 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Selah,
Since your daughter is going off to college, I would highly recommend the book "How to Stay Christian in College" by J. Budziszewski. It's excellent preparation for the kinds of challenges that your daughter will face at college, no matter which one she goes to. A lot of Christians are not equipped to handle the kinds of intellectual and moral assaults that they face at college, and many fall away from the faith at that time.

Blessings,
Alan
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rossfadeinout
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   Posted 5/21/2005 7:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Selah,

If you're looking for the "cream of the crop" when it comes to Christian books, I would have to say that the book that has made the biggest impression on my Christian walk is The Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Willard.

This work really taught me what it means to live as a disciple of the master.

Ross


"Let us remember how common the folly is of going from one faulty extreme into the opposite." -Thomas Reid

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   Posted 5/21/2005 11:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Normally when someone asks me to recommend a book I say Letters from a Skeptic, but I imagine you're already familiar with that one. I really like The Meaning of Jesus by Borg and Wright. Wright's half is great, and the Borg half is a good overview of the other side. Divine Conspiracy by Dallas Williard was life-changing for me. For heavy stuff I like Varieties of Religious Experience by William James. It's not a Christian book, and your faith needs to have withstood some doubts first, but I like it. And finally, my all-time favorite book is Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. It's sci-fi and it's by a Mormon, but... but... but... dudemanseriously! I know people who don't like sci-fi who love Ender's Game. Lots of times when I'm talking about love or fear or motivations or faith I find myself saying, "It like that time when Ender..."

I guess Divine Conspiracy is the safest bet though. It's mostly a careful reading and interpretation of the Sermon on the Mount.  Very good stuff.


Watch me fly. Freedom like wings and I will use them. Freedom like wings and I will spread them wide. - Stavesacre

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ThatDarnCat
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   Posted 5/24/2005 1:41 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The Sand Pebbles was good.

Synopsis: People are more important than governments.
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selah
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   Posted 5/25/2005 5:50 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Just want to say thanks to everyone who posted. Violin, cool suggestion on the CD set. I KNOW my daughter has a CD player! freaked (its interesting, I never thought I'd miss THAT thing...but, as things draw nearer I kinda already do - awwwww). Ross/sahid, I'm a big Dallas Willard fan. You're right, I should really consider his stuff! renovation of the heart is another one I've thought would be good for this time of her life. ATW, I've read Watchman Nee on prayer, but nothing else. I'll be ordering the book you suggested, for sure. Finally, Alan, thought you should know that I stalk your philosophy stuff online ;-) Thanks for your wisdom. I'm going to give my daughter the book you suggested prior to her two week retreat with summit ministries this summer (btw. anyone hear of them?).


Thanks again,
love,
selah

THAT DARN CAT - do I know you? I looked up "The sand pebbles."
It's supposed to be a good movie. Have you seen it? I'll check it out.


1 Corinthians 2:1-5
When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. 2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.

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ThatDarnCat
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   Posted 5/25/2005 6:59 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Selah said...

THAT DARN CAT - do I know you? I looked up "The sand pebbles."
It's supposed to be a good movie. Have you seen it? I'll check it out.
Not the movie, the book.  The movie really lacks the symbollism of the book.  As movies do.
 
It's probably a guy's book anyway.  I really can't channel the tastes of a teenage lass off to college.
 
 

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Laika
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   Posted 5/25/2005 11:25 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Selah, because you asked for inspirational books I didn't initially respond.
 
I also have a daughter starting college in the fall and a suggestion I have is to buy reference books for whatever field they're going into.
 
Dictionaries, commentaries, thesauri, medical dictionaries, color references, etc. <--- not a proper sentence
 
I'm getting my daughter a laptop and God willing, we'll teach her to keep her room clean before she leaves home.  (God of the Impossible?)


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   Posted 7/21/2005 6:51 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

ON Summit...I have a 24 yr old daughter who attended when she was 16. A very good experience. We've been getting their newsletter ever since, edited by David Noebel. They give Bible and CS Lewis quotes every time. The 2 week thing is mainly on worldview and I mainly would think it very good. I do think they tend to be overly conservative. I doubt any of the speakers/teachers would be at all encouraging of any Open View talk.

 

On books...CS Lewis would be good and I have a hard time really getting it all in my brain...gotta read slow. Like John Eldredge and wife, who just had a new one come out of which I forget the title. Like Archibald HArt and daughter who have one titled something about Safe Marriage. Think books by Leane Payne...Restoring the CHristian Soul..very good too. Suppose by this date your daughter may have done the Summit thing...How'd she like it?

 

Veridical

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   Posted 7/21/2005 8:47 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I personally would have to say Repeanting of Religion by Doc Boyd. I have been doing a book group on it and it is amazing how God seems to be using that book to transform lives, at least here in Sioux Falls.


MrI. :|

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