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Starkman
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| Posted 11/6/2005 8:54 PM (GMT -6) |   | |
Ok, you personality-type buffs. I just took the assessment at the cognitiveprocess website (I think that was it, based on the site Meph referenced in the "Meph to the Witness Stand" thread).
Before I tell what the 4-letter code results are, here's what I am all about. You guys tell me what you think I am, and then I'll go from there.
Introvert:
First and foremost! I like being alone, but I like being around people when I feel it's safe (viz., restaurants, church, etc). I'm am a meloncholy; the glass is always half empty. Never half full. I always see what could go wrong and what's not right. I like having a backup plan. I'm not an optimist, but, thankfully, I've learned to be more balanced and at least admit that the glass is also half full!)
On the other side, though, I have a great sense of humor, but I only let it come out when I feel it's safe (again, in places where I can escape if need to). If my humor is rejected or misunderstood, I can get really self-conscience and wanna hide. It used to be that I could hardly stand to be in a crowd of people. I simply could NOT be in a crowd of people where I didn't know anyone or didn't know what was going on. I've managed, thank the Lord, to control this, so it's not anything like it used to be. Now, if I'm in a crowd and that along with the unknown, I...hang out in the bathroom until it's over!!!
Organized:
Very structured and systematic. I'm not overkill in this area, but I hate it when others aren't organized at least enough to put something back where it was when the're done with it, and clean up after themselves.
Practical:
I'm not a thinker as much as I perceive what's going on. I can read people and situations very quickly and quite accurately. If I'm wrong about my beliefs or my thoughts on something, I'll change. If I'm not convinced I'm wrong, I'm aggressive (but never meaning to be rude) and tenacious in holding onto what I believe. I will, however, budge in order to keep peace and meet half-way as long as I don't have to comprise my ethics or theology.
Non-confrontational:
I have (more so in the past) a lot of fear of people; they are to unpredictable. I will avoid confrontation as much as possible, though in my mind I've kicked the crap out of them and then some! The thinking here being I'd rather get them before they get me.
Leadership:
I am a follower. Just tell me what I'm to do, and I'll do it. Don't expect me to make difficult decisions very well. I don't have that kind of insight, and I hate it when management-decision making is thrust on me. I only like to be in charge (leading) when I'm doing Bible teaching, and that's because my gift is teaching (at the practical, day-to-day real, down-to-earth reality of theology and walking with God as I see scripture laying it out).
Enjoyables:
I'm very vanilla. I'm just fine with a cup of coffee, reading a book or studying. I absolutely hate being anywhere where I have to just sit and wait if I don't have a book or material I'm studying or going over. I don't like sports (though I like watching ice skating), and I don't care to do the outdoors without the amenities of a shower and a darned good coffee shop nearby!
Work:
I like working alone, but I value team work. I'm more than willing to help out any time I'm asked as long as I'm not being used or taken advantage of. I'll answer the same question over and over for someone if he/she just can't get it. I'm very patient in that respect.
I'm not a "got to get it done" kind of worker. I like taking each task in order without having to do a lot of multi-tasking. Neither am I a workahololic. As a matter of fact, I have to work at it to not get distracted with doing other things rather than working. I like enough variety to keep things interesting (assembly work would just drive me nuts!), but I don't like change and I don't like the unknown. I'm neither management or leadership material, but I like being able to direct when it comes to keeping things on the straight and narrow; organized, structured and consistent.
Community, Church and Ministry:
I am not involved in my community and haven't been in the past when I've lived elsewhere. I do, however, wish to be involved with helping the less fortunate and to be used by God to reach other Christians who are trying to find their way in the Walk. In this sense, I crave a spiritual community (like L'Abri, for those of you who know about Francis and Edith Schaeffer's ministry). Otherwise, I struggle with getting invovled with the community. There's a lot that I'd like to be doing in the community, but there is the struggle of two things I constantly face: I like being left alone and I like my time to myself.
Ok, so what am I?
Thanks very much for your time, folks,
Starkman
My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?" Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us? | | Back to Top | | |
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Corey
Five with a Four-wing
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| Posted 11/6/2005 10:37 PM (GMT -6) | | | | |
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Starkman
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| Posted 11/7/2005 9:03 AM (GMT -6) | | |
Dude! You rock, Corey! Yup, I took the test twice and it came up as ISTJ, your first pick. The description wasn't 100% accurate, but close enough.
I've always used the four temperment concepts (choleric, sanguine, meloncholy and fleg) in reading people. I'll have to spend some time, however, to go over the stuff from the cognitive process site, though.
Jeff: Truth be told, whether one loves or does not love coffee is all there is to know about anyone, eh!
Starkman
My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?" Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us? | | Back to Top | | |
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Starkman
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| Posted Yesterday 9:10 AM (GMT -6) | |
jefscott said...Keith: Truth be told, whether one loves or does not love coffee is all there is to know about anyone, eh! Jeff: OK, I was being a bit hyperbolic. But just a bit!!
"To drink coffee, or not to drink coffee: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of doctored-up Arabica (that crapachino and other mixed messes), Or to take up arms against a sea of trouble makers, And by opposing end this distortion of pure, black coffee scrum-diddly-umptious coffee? To drink with them; no more; by drinking their crappy frappies, to say we end The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks..." ahem!
Wow! I see what you mean about that hyperbolic stuff!
My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?" Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us? | | Back to Top | | |
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Starkman
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| Posted Yesterday 9:21 AM (GMT -6) | | |
Hey Corey,
There's a bunch of other dimensions, not just these four, listed in the book Figuring Out People. I got turned on to this when I took the TNT course last year.
Yeah, I'd like to learn more about TNT. I think Tom mentioned a book I could read that would kind of go in that direction...wasn't it The Matrix, Tom?
I spent a lot of time understanding the temperments from the view of choleric, sanguine, meloncholy and fleg, as I noted above. I mean, I understood who I was (a horribly apt person for isolation and depression from serious mood swings--I hated life, and still don't like it now), but I didn't understand why I was who I was. A good friend told me about the temperments, and over a period of years I was able to really get a foothold on controlling the mood swings.
The MBPT system/codes is pretty cool. There's also the "Best Fit" site Meph mentioned that adds another dimension. I'll also check into that book you mentioned.
Now, for some personality stuff you mentioned:
Move toward/ Move away
Self/Others
In-Time/Through-Time
Sameness/Difference
Ok, here goes. Let's see if I can make this work.
I tend to move away from those I move toward (generally I just to that to myself and others). Further, I usually get through it...in time. Otherwise, it's the same difference no matter.
Yeah, I think I got the hang of this stuff, eh!
Starkman
My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?" Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us?Post Edited (Starkman) : 11/8/2005 8:25:24 AM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Corey
Five with a Four-wing
Date Joined Feb 2003
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| Posted Yesterday 9:33 AM (GMT -6) | | |
Here's my quick synopsis:
Move toward/ Move away Do you tend to do things to avoid problems (move away) or to achieve a goal (move toward)
Sort by Self/Sort by Others Are you more motivated to benefit yourself or to benefit others.
In-time/through-time Are you usually mentally present in the here-and-now or in the future or past. Do you live "in the moment" or are you already thinking about what's coming next.
Sort by Sameness/Sort by Difference Do you tend to notice what's in common between two objects or what's different about them. | | Back to Top | | |
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Starkman
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| Posted Yesterday 12:22 PM (GMT -6) | | Ok, to be serious here, Corey, here's my answers:
Move toward/ Move away Do you tend to do things to avoid problems (move away) or to achieve a goal (move toward)
Definitely move away, except when I want to learn something; I go after learning it (right now it's piano and Spanish) pretty aggressively. Otherwise, though, I try to avoid problems.
Sort by Self/Sort by Others Are you more motivated to benefit yourself or to benefit others.
To benefit myself.
In-time/through-time Are you usually mentally present in the here-and-now or in the future or past. Do you live "in the moment" or are you already thinking about what's coming next.
I live a lot in the past. I'm energized by memories of past moments and past atmospheres.
Sort by Sameness/Sort by Difference Do you tend to notice what's in common between two objects or what's different about them.
What the difference is.
Ok, so now what???
My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?" Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us? | | Back to Top | | |
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Corey
Five with a Four-wing
Date Joined Feb 2003
Total Posts : 1893
| Posted Yesterday 2:28 PM (GMT -6) | | | Mostly I think these just help you understand yourself and others better, which of course is important to better communication. I saw that Meph, for example, is likely a sort-by-difference person, so whenever I'd ask something like, "isn't this like that" he'd always point out the differences. This isn't a critique or anything negative, just an neutral observation. And it's not so much an observation of how a person IS, as it is an observation of what a person DOES.
I had another coworker who was like this, so I learned that if I want him to get on board with a project, I'd have to go in and say, "You know, I don't think this can be done. Don't you agree?" He'd come up with all kinds of reasons why I was wrong and ideas for how we could get it done. Kinda childish but it worked.
If you understand that a person sorts by self, then emphasize those aspects when talking about something. If they are primarily motivated to move-away rather than move toward, emphasize those aspects. Etc.
Christianly speaking, I think this helps me understand why some emphasize the fear of hell in evangelism (move-away) and others emphasize abundant life (move-toward). Probably just two sides of the same coin. The problem comes when we try to dogmatize OUR particular wiring as being the RIGHT way to be a Christian. Post Edited (Corey) : 11/8/2005 1:36:49 PM (GMT-6) | | Back to Top | | |
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Starkman
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| Posted Yesterday 2:45 PM (GMT -6) | | Corey,
Ah, I see. Hey, I've come up for an acronyn...acronymn--however you spell it: TaSTeS.
Toward/Away - T
Self/Others - S
In-Time/Through-Time - T
Sorting - similar or difference - S
TaSTeS - our tastes! (Am I a genius or what!)
Yeah, I've used the four temperments to quickly discern where someone's coming from in the broader sense. Are they an extrover or introvert? If extrovert, are they the leader type (choleric) or happy-go-lucky type (sanguine)? If introvert, are they the moody, artistical, creative and/or thinker type (meloncholy) or are they the quite and more passive--the peacemakers--type (phelg)?
I don't spend near as much time as I should concentrating on how to relate to people in view of who and what they are. It's more instinctive anymore, and that's fine, but you can get rusty when it comes to paying closer attention to people and making the most to relate to them.
Well, back to work I go (fortunately, there's some peanut clusters left in my desk to keep me on the straight and narrow!)
Starkman
My teacher used to say that whenever he read Scripture, he would always ask the question, "What does this have to say about the character of God?" Working off his thinking, as I read Scripture, I have come to ask, "What does this have to say about the heart and passion of God's desire for relationship for us? | | Back to Top | | |
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