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PBS
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   Posted 12/17/2001 1:53 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
There isn't going to be much meat in this post because it is just an introduction. My Aunt Springs asked me last night to join this board. I spent a few hours last night and a several more today reading parts of this site and posts on this board. I have attended Dr. Boyd's church on several occasions when I lived in MN. I have also owned two of his books [Letters from a Skeptic] and [Cynic Sage or Son of God]. I used the past tense because I lent them out and they later became gifts. :)

Even though I have had that limited exposure to Dr. Boyd in the past I had not heard of Open View Theism until last night when I visited this site. Therfore, I will have to do quite a bit more study before I will be prepared to discuss that issue (if ever).

I would post more about myself but I took some time today filling out a fairly long profile, so I will just direct you to that instead. If you have any comments on it from typos to doctrine let me know.

Springs, you asked and here I am; 'cuz I love ya.


-PBS

Mark 4:38-40 (NKJV)
"Then He arose and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, 'Peace, be still!' And the wind ceased and there was a great calm."
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churchmouse522
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   Posted 12/17/2001 2:27 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome to the board PBS. Jump right in when you feel ready.

Mouse

"We're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy." Seal
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Springs
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   Posted 12/17/2001 4:16 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Hey PBS! Welcome!!!



It's great to have you on board! Nothing like a dramatic entry! You get the award for longest profile! whew.

That’s quite a list of “Well liked Christians” you got there! Sproul and Piper aren’t my favorites but I’ll give ya Mueller and Lewis.

What is Perfectionism?

Praying for snow,
Springs




"God has instituted prayer so as to confer upon his creatures the dignity of being causes." — Blaise Pascal

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MrIndifference
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   Posted 12/17/2001 4:29 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
You were asking about perfectionism...
Well, check out this linkwww.nexus.edu.au/teachstud/gat/peters.htmIn general, it is not simply having perfectionistic tendencies, but making it a way of life... The Freud Dude would probably term it as being Anal Retentive. I presume that is what PBS is refering to.

MrI. :|
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He who blesses his friend with a loud voice,
Rising in the morning,
It will be counted a curse to him.
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PBS
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   Posted 12/17/2001 4:41 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Good catch on the "Well-like Christians" wording Springs. That's not what I wanted to say. I wanted it to be a list of some people I like. I changed the heading.
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PBS
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   Posted 12/17/2001 4:46 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
MrI, umm... sort of, but not really. That article talks about some junk I totally reject like channeling positive energy. Okay that stuff is plain nonsense.

What I mean is the idea that Christian's either A) can keep the whole law perfectly after regeneration or B) must keep the whole law perfectly in order to "keep" their salvation.

On a related note I would reject the ability of a truly regenerate person to lose their salvation. You can lose your keys, and your wallet, and maybe even your mind, but when the creator of the universe tears out your heart of stone and replaces it with a heart of flesh you cannot call up your favorite heart surgeon and ask him to undo it.
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n/a
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   Posted 12/17/2001 6:00 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome PBS (like in public broadcast system ?)

I read your profile, you can do the scrolling marquee thing also, although it is not on here, I am sure you will find it.

Michael J. Behe ?I have this for you, maybe it will inform you about Behe, Click me please

God Bless
Paul

P.S Check out Satan and the Problem With Evil:Constructing a Trinitarian Warfare Theodicy, I am told by Doc (Greg Boyd) that it touches on the open view. Being a fan of Piper and sproul I am skeptical on your accepting this view, but at least give it a chance. Also the book trosie posts below is a good one; it is also by Doc.

Our natural greatness is seen as part of God's image, and that natural greatness has been conferred on us to enable us to achieve our supernatural destiny:to be related to God and to obey him freely.---Diogenes Allen

Edited by - faithfullservent on 12/18/2001 12:41:15 AM

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GregBoyd
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   Posted 12/17/2001 6:42 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
HI PBS. If it was BBS you'd be famous.

Welcome

We're so friendly around here, ain't we?

just wait till he/she comes on and disagrees with me

Doc

"Three is the magic number, oh yes it is, it's the Magic Number" - De La Soul
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trosie
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   Posted 12/17/2001 6:56 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome, PBS! You said:
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Even though I have had that limited exposure to Dr. Boyd in the past I had not heard of Open View Theism until last night when I visited this site. Therfore, I will have to do quite a bit more study before I will be prepared to discuss that issue (if ever).


Well, have I got a book for you! The best part is Doc himself wrote it. It changed my life and my understanding of the open view. It's called God of the Possible Get it -- it's a must read!

Welcome,
trosie



"Sometimes when your heart breaks God is the only one who can put it together again." Author Unknown





Edited by - trosie on 12/17/2001 11:57:41 PM
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might-be-don
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   Posted 12/18/2001 2:28 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello PBS,

Welcome.

Thought I'd drag you right into the fray...

This list from your bio:

FALSE TEACHERS
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Benny Hinn
Kenneth Hagin
Kenneth Copeland

I see you straight for the big guns, what about their teaching places them so high on your hit list?

peace and love, don




A quote from Rev. Gregory A. Boyd, PhD ... " Has anyone seen my keys? "
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Modes of Thought
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   Posted 12/18/2001 3:22 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Welcome!

"PBS" eh? my guess is Peanut Butter Sandwhich, right?

"Christianly understood, truth is obviously not to know the truth but to be the truth. Despite all modern philosophy, there is an infinite difference here..." SK
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PBS
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   Posted 12/18/2001 4:48 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
To Faithfull : Thanks for the link. I am not happy to see that. I have his book, Darwin's Black Box. And I like some of his explanations of Intelligent Design. I have to admit that I skimmed portions of his book where I got bogged down. Maybe I didn't pay enough attention, because I don't remember noticing that he believes in evolution. Bummer. I still like his Intelligent Design arguments. And he has some really cool stuff about eyes and blod clots in there.

To Several : I will add those books to my LONG list of books I'd like to read. There just isn't enough time in the day to read all the books I'd like to read. Unless I gave up working and sleeping... hmm...

To Dr. Boyd : He.

To Modes : Nope, Peace Be Still. (See my tag line).

To MBD : They have said things like : "The trinity is three beings made up of three pieces: body, spirit, ?(can't remember third thing), so there are really nine parts" , "Adam could fly and he once flew to the moon", "Adam could breath under water", "We are little Gods", "God's purpose in making man was to reproduce himself, we are little Gods", "God is about 6'2" tall and wieghs about 200 lbs. He has a hand with a nine-inch span.", "God has no dominion on earth", "God can't do anything on Earth without permission", "Christians should not be poor or get sick". The list is MUCH longer this. These are just some that come to mind right now. If you would like to hear these men, and several others, say these things go to www.equip.org and order the tape version of "Christianity in Chrisis". It will make your skin crawl and may make you lose your lunch.

-PBS

Mark 4:38-40 (NKJV)
"Then He arose and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, 'Peace, be still!' And the wind ceased and there was a great calm."
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n/a
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   Posted 12/18/2001 5:03 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Good one modes,lol

Paul

Our natural greatness is seen as part of God's image, and that natural greatness has been conferred on us to enable us to achieve our supernatural destiny:to be related to God and to obey him freely.---Diogenes Allen

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   Posted 12/18/2001 7:06 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I must say welcome to PBS! I am on my 3rd week on this board and I love it!

Pragma-Man

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