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Ronald Ricketts
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| Posted 1/5/2002 3:28 AM (GMT -6) |   | If the ETS is passing resolutions to give Open Theists a "gentle nudge" to leave the ETS, why aren't they doing the same thing to the Weselyn/Pentecostal traditions that promote women as pastors???Bruce Ware is quoted in Baptists Today, Jan,02,page 9, as writing, "the woman is created to help the man in fulfilling his God-commanded, God-ordained role". Also is Bruce Ware attempting or desiring to become the point guard of the anti-Open Theism team. From what I have read,I have the feeling he would love the job.
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writerdad
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| Posted 1/5/2002 7:32 PM (GMT -6) | | Ronald: I just finished reading "Bound Only Once," CanonPress's horrible, mean spirited diatribe against open theism (I believe everyone should read it, because to believe the scope of it you have to read it) and have picked up John Frame's book No Other God, which is also on Open Theism. So I open the book and start reading the endorsements. This is the opening line from D A Carson: "It is with a sense of relief that I turn from the amateurish and even wrong-headed writings of the 'openness' theologians to this work by John Frame."
These people treat us worse than they would the unconverted.
Let's say that open theists are wrong. What would you do? Are not most of them fellow believers? Would you not take them by the hand and lovingly do your best to show them the truth? Instead, the insults pile up. I am thinking of doing a post just on excerpts from "Bound Only Once," just to show how bad its gotten. I, for one, even if I wasn't an open theist, would sincerely consider it a much more godly pursuit than following some of these "critics" down the road of ruthness. Being rude for the sake of the gospel? Now that is a new one! Harold
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Ronald Ricketts
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| Posted 1/6/2002 5:20 AM (GMT -6) | | Dear WriterDad; Thanks for your reply. I want to make some requests of you. First, I request that you post some of the stuff from Bound Only Once.Second,I request that you check me out on my earlier post that the ETS would have some people of the Wesleyan tradition that would accept women pastors. Am I correct or is this a false assumption on my part.Third, If and I admit that it is a big if, the ETS has Wesleyan people who accept feminine pastors, then why doesn't the ETS have a resolution against this acceptance? Thanks to one and all.
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chance
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| Posted 1/6/2002 10:33 AM (GMT -6) | | The reason why the ETS would never take a vote on a resolution against women pastors is because te guy who founded the ETS, Roger Nicole, is an egalitarian. It's all political Ron.
I predict that the ETS will become a scholarly wasteland within 15 years and will eventually fold.
If you want some excerpts from Bound Only Once you can check out the review at Amazon where some are given by a supporter of the book.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1885767846/qid%3D1010350640/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F0%5F1/103-2562202-5482223
In the Beloved,
chance
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 1/6/2002 6:48 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Second,I request that you check me out on my earlier post that the ETS would have some people of the Wesleyan tradition that would accept women pastors.
The first pastor of Houghton Wesleyan Church (Houghton College) was a woman.
also, read D. Dayton's book (old now)"Discovering an Evangelical Heritage. | | Back to Top | | |
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writerdad
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| Posted 1/7/2002 5:42 PM (GMT -6) | | Ronald: I was thinking of starting a post about the book (Bound Only Once) anyway, so I will start one, but seperately. Chance, the reason I wanted to start one was to show people HOW this group of individuals was critising open theism, not the actual criticism. I welcome criticism, because I think it is the only way to grow. But some of the comments and the tactics of this book not basically mean spirited and hate filled. And I thought this should be brought out. Harold
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