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Tigress
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   Posted 1/2/2004 8:55 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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Originally posted by Blood Washed Heretic

All of the people leaving on that ship were ring-bearers. Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel had the three elven-rings, and Bilbo and Frodo were the final surviving bearers of the One Ring.

Also, it is a "homecoming" trip for Gandalf of sorts; the wizards are really maiar (angelic spirits) incarnated as old men who were sent to oversee and assist in Sauron's final defeat. Gandalf is the only one to complete this task faithfully, so he is allowed to return.

Bilbo and Frodo are mortals, but are given this unique grace because of the corrupting power of the Ring. Valinor is indeed a "paradise", but still is a physical place, so Bilbo and Frodo will die once they have found peace and healing.

Hope that helps...



That's odd. I wonder why Tolkien made all that up, if they're all just going to die anyway. Someone told me that when all the elves were leaving to take their ships to Valinor, they would live eternally. But, Arwen chose not to so she could be with Aragorn, thus becoming a mortal. Why are the elves immortal while the others who go to Valinor still remain mortal?


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rossfadeinout
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   Posted 1/3/2004 2:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hey Tigress,

You're right, it does get kind of confusing. The elves are immortal, they go to the undying lands to pass out of the realm of middle earth. Bilbo and Frodo are not immortal, so even though they get to go with the elves, they will still die.

Ross


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honorman
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   Posted 1/3/2004 5:40 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As I said, reading the books do help.
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