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Vexen
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| Posted 1/15/2002 2:27 AM (GMT -6) |   | We should create a top-level forum category so people can introduce themselves! Unless I've missed something obvious :-)
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 1/15/2002 3:25 AM (GMT -6) | | And so, here is your self-introduction:
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Vexen Crabtree's Orifices of Information
MAIN Guestbook Email
Sites Index Random Pages Site Stats About Vexen What's New
Main Disclaimer Words Browsers Links
What's new?
Index of all religion-related pages.
Link This Site
Why do people hateAmerica?
Vexen's Infernal Diatribe
Vexen Is Evil
(proof!)
Human Sanctuary
Pages on being human; Human Nature. In particular on Human Sexualities, Furry Culture, The Gay Scene, Subcultures, The Left Hand Path Note
Bane of Monotheism
On Christianity, The Bible, the formation of the Canon texts, etc. Also a page on the major problems with Revealed religions and monotheism.
Gothic
Goth pages ... music and bands info, a little poetry (including the philosophy of self-worship), and a clubbing page.
Holy Shit
Humour at the expense of all our favorite organized religions...
Photosite
Vexen's Photosite is a searchable directory of nearly 600 photos he's taken, from old college friends to goths, furry's, Satanists and various other friends.
Satanism
The Description, Philosophies and Justification of Satanism. Check it out just to dispel preconceptions if nothing else, this is a popular and respected site.
Ambient Dream Site
A pleasing site with no-stress content, a simple recounting of Vexen's dreams and nightmares classified arbitarily into five colors.
Inner Chamber
The Modern Media, Life, Consciousness, Death, Relationships, The genesis of the universe, Time, Light, Time Travel, The End of the Universe, Pantheism, The nature of existance, Free Will, Determinism and PEL.
Rants and Essays
Generic opinions, rants and essays.
The Church of the Christian and the Satanist Empiress versus Vexen Crabtree. A very in depth and wide-ranging discusion.
Life
Old Site (1999). The origins of life and the evolution from inorganic chemicals to land animals. Nature of possible aliens and the Implications and effects of finding alien life.
The Future
Old Site (1999). Pages on the future evolution of Man, my future Gender Utopia, the future of Cyborgs, Telepathy and sentient Artifical intelligence.
Ambient Halls
A no-thought, pointless website. Navigate the Ambient Halls by clicking the images or hyperlinked text. You will only find the center by accident, so don't work; play.
VexenUK Webring
The Vexen Crabtree webring is aimed at sites which cover similar subjects as these including sites that intelligently oppose these pages and put forward alternative theories and points of view to mine.
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Vexen Crabtree
About myself & my hobbies, etc. Multiple photos
Random Pages
Random pages! Ranom Photos!
KK Corporation
What position do you want when I take over the world?
Recommended Books
Relevant to some bit or other on this site.
Noughts & Crosses
Awards
© 2001 Vexen Crabtree. All rights reserved.
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Mephi2K
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| Posted 1/15/2002 4:01 AM (GMT -6) | | Dag, yo. I almost forgot. A HEARTY welcome to the board, Vexen. I just know that you will find this place fun and informative. Can't wait for more interaction from you. Really, I can't. 
Again, Welcome!
Loving it,
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Vexen
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| Posted 1/15/2002 5:43 AM (GMT -6) | | Thanks! That intro someone posted for me isn't a very good text-grep, I'll post a proper one later!
Thanks for the welcome.
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pia†desideria
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| Posted 1/15/2002 6:35 AM (GMT -6) | | Vexen, welcome. I’m looking forward to your introduction because I am curious (as usual, but a little more than usual in your case). I hope that Empiress posts an intro too. Looking forward to some interesting conversation…
To all the other discussion partners who have recently joined, please post here if you have not yet been properly welcomed or introduced and you would like to be.
pia
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pia†desideria
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| Posted 1/15/2002 6:42 AM (GMT -6) | | Empiress, nice to meet a fellow panentheist…  pia
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June
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| Posted 1/15/2002 7:05 AM (GMT -6) | |
welcome vexen and empiress. it's always great to have new members.
pia, panentheist? correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that outside of theism? isn't that where the world is God, but God is more than just the world?
June
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PotOnWheel
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| Posted 1/15/2002 7:19 AM (GMT -6) | | June, it gave me wonder too. I think that I have seen it used two ways. Both the way I'm suspecting that pia means it (which I've seen in contemporary writing by some Orthodox authors) AND the way you are familiar with as you said above. I'm guessing that ether it got grabbed from one place by two different parties; or that the Christians were appropriating and baptizing it (since, as Frank Gabelein said: "All truth is God's truth.").
Pia, that's my guess. What's the answer?
PoW
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Mephi2K
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| Posted 1/15/2002 7:57 AM (GMT -6) | | Not hatin' or anything, but isn't the word "empress", NOT "empiress"??
Sorry for the pedantry. I can be an anal-retentive something sometimes... 
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Vexen
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| Posted 1/15/2002 8:14 AM (GMT -6) | | It's intentional. She's not an female Emperor!
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 1/15/2002 10:40 AM (GMT -6) | | This board never ceases to amaze me!
welcome new folks. jump in with your thoughts -- or in some cases, "feelings."
Pia, do you want to qualify your "fellow panentheist" greeting?
Peace
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Vexen
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| Posted 1/15/2002 10:46 AM (GMT -6) | | Thanks for the welcome!
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pia†desideria
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| Posted 1/15/2002 12:31 PM (GMT -6) | | Doc: Pia, do you want to qualify your "fellow panentheist" greeting?
pia: Ok fine. Here are a couple qualifications: I am a trinitarian panentheist who holds to a limited (vs. ontological) cosmic dualism. Is that kosher enough for y’all?
Empiress, what’s your version?
pia
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June
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| Posted 1/15/2002 4:27 PM (GMT -6) | |
oh pia, please do explain!
trinitarian panentheist? limited cosmic dualism? pia is that really you?
please correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't trinitarian panentheism that says God is the process? and we can only few it from a historical standpoint, not in future terms? if i remember correctly these ideas are linked with God directing and controlling evolution, with process theology, and with the ideas (largely) of moltmann?
June
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churchmouse522
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| Posted 1/15/2002 5:11 PM (GMT -6) | | Welcome Empiress and Vexen. I'm usually around a lot more than I have been lately, but I just started a new job and I'm fried. In answer to Pia's question, this is from Empiress's site:
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I am a Panentheist
By Empiress
I am a Panentheist. I believe that the Divine is present in everything and also extends beyond and is greater than the universe. (As distinct from Pantheists who believe the universe itself is divine.) The Divine is both transcendent and immanent in the world. I believe in the existence of a Creator who is the first cause and creative source behind life. In other words, God is the initiator of human reality. I believe Jesus Christ to be an embodiment of truth and divinity. However, I also believe there is truth in all world religions and major philosophies and that religious tolerance is absolutely imperative. We are all sojourners, together seeking truth on our life journeys. As a panentheist I am also a Universalist. I believe all of creation will be reconciled to God at some point and there is no need to proselytize or seek to convert people who are content in their current belief system. I believe in the necessity of dialogue across belief systems with the desire for mutual understanding and support. I also believe that science and religion are fully compatible within the Panentheistic framework.
Peace out beloved!
Mouse
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Mephi2K
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| Posted 1/15/2002 6:10 PM (GMT -6) | | | Universalism and religious pluralism, eh? Oh, what fun this will be! | | Back to Top | | |
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June
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| Posted 1/15/2002 6:14 PM (GMT -6) | |
what do you say we start a new thread on all of this? i think it definately warrants its own.
June
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n/a
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| Posted 1/15/2002 7:28 PM (GMT -6) | | Hey Mouse, I did not know if you knew that I know, but, Empiress and Vexen would appreciate if anything taken from their site would be linked. This is for revamping purposes, they do not want out dated material lying around, if, they change their mind about certain ideas or beliefs.
Peacenot this:
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am a Panentheist
By Empiress
I am a Panentheist. I believe that the Divine is present in everything and also extends beyond and is greater than the universe. (As distinct from Pantheists who believe the universe itself is divine.) The Divine is both transcendent and immanent in the world. I believe in the existence of a Creator who is the first cause and creative source behind life. In other words, God is the initiator of human reality. I believe Jesus Christ to be an embodiment of truth and divinity. However, I also believe there is truth in all world religions and major philosophies and that religious tolerance is absolutely imperative. We are all sojourners, together seeking truth on our life journeys. As a panentheist I am also a Universalist. I believe all of creation will be reconciled to God at some point and there is no need to proselytize or seek to convert people who are content in their current belief system. I believe in the necessity of dialogue across belief systems with the desire for mutual understanding and support. I also believe that science and religion are fully compatible within the Panentheistic framework.
This:hey, look at this essay by empiress, heh.I thought this would be helpful
Blessings upon Blessings
Paul
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churchmouse522
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| Posted 1/16/2002 4:48 PM (GMT -6) | | OOPS!!!   
Transgression duly noted. Sorry Empiress and Vexen.
Contrite Mouse
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Springs
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| Posted 1/17/2002 4:01 AM (GMT -6) | | Double ooops.
I just posted on the other introduction thread and being computer illiterate didn't put up any links. But hey I think we have enough links posted that we can all find their site. right? Still a no no? If I'm forgiven give me one of those fancy, scrolling, colorful, happy, hoppy, banners.
 It's good to be back. When my husband came in from work he asked if I had been resting. I've had the cruditis. I said yeah I sat in bed and read research all day. He didn't seem to think that counted. hmmmmm
Hope you are all well,
springs
"God has instituted prayer so as to confer upon his creatures the dignity of being causes." — Blaise Pascal
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pia†desideria
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| Posted 1/17/2002 6:11 AM (GMT -6) | | Who needs the sign of the cross? —faithfull, that is the niftiest absolution I’ve ever seen! pia
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pia†desideria
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| Posted 1/17/2002 6:21 AM (GMT -6) | | Springs, Mary Daly has her very own dictionary of words she makes up (Websters' [as in Spiders, not Mr. Webster] First New Intergalactic Wickedary of the English Language). I think you should have your own dictionary too, and it should have entries for "cruditis" and "ookie." pia
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Springs
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| Posted 1/17/2002 7:03 AM (GMT -6) | | Thanks Faithful!!!
I love your colorful animated contributions. (and the absolution is nice too)
Pia, Sounds like my kind of dictionary!
I’ve been sitting in front of this blasted computer all morning, trying to find some serious research material from some reputable sources. Argh. First I couldn’t access the college library from home cause I don’t know how to figure out what the heck my modem is called. Then I couldn’t access a teenager to ‘splain it to me. Urgh. I’m not asking for the world. I just wanted a few Landmark studies on Organizational Development having to do with Change Theories! Someday when I grow up I want to be a web wizard like Faithful, and PoW and that J.C. Sites guy.
Springs
"God has instituted prayer so as to confer upon his creatures the dignity of being causes." — Blaise Pascal
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