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Tom
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   Posted 2/10/2002 12:15 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Doc said Bromiley (?) recently had an article on the OV in Christianity Today. I searched their site and couldn't find it. Anybody know where I can find it online?

Tom

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Ronald Ricketts
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   Posted 2/10/2002 10:28 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dear TGB; I would suggest that you go to WWW.Christianitytoday.com and look thru their articles or go to their help section and ask where the article is online. Good Luck. Ronald Ricketts

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chance
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   Posted 2/12/2002 6:31 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Here's a link to the article for those who want to waste, er...I mean spend their time reading it

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/002/9.72.html

chance

A God who has fixed every detail beforehand may retire or die --Markus Barth
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Tom
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   Posted 2/12/2002 10:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks Chance. I read it. It's discouraging. So little understanding of the OV. Is it really that hard to understand?

Tom

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Terry_Baxter
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   Posted 2/20/2002 12:58 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I'm not trying to be contentious here, but could someone point out the problems with the article? I'm not necessarily talking about where it misrepresents OV, but where you disagree with a point it makes? On a first reading, I found myself agreeing with most of it.

I also just noticed this post from Doctor Boyd:

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Experience, reason, science and Scripture all demonstrate that all freedom is within parameters. Where the parameters end and freedom begins we have no clue. But it would not disturb the Open View in the least if it could be proven that, at this moment right now, with regard to this decision right now, 99.5% of the total situation was determined, and .5% up to you. Indeed, if I HAD to guess, based on my understanding of such things as a) genetic influence b) social influence c) spiritual influence d) the influence of character from previous decisions e) necessary conditions of physical existence, etc. I would guess that this estimation of the influence distribution is probably close to correct, most of the time.


Terry



Edited by - terry_baxter on 02/20/2002 7:51:50 PM
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