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BJS
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| Posted 4/17/2002 4:09 AM (GMT -6) |   | Is this true?
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Electra
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| Posted 4/17/2002 3:24 PM (GMT -6) | | It’s true.
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Ronald Ricketts
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| Posted 4/17/2002 4:30 PM (GMT -6) | | If it is true that Doctor Gregory Boyd has resigned from Bethel, THEN BETHEL IS THE LOSER.
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Electra
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| Posted 4/17/2002 5:13 PM (GMT -6) | | From the Provost’s announcement of Greg Boyd’s resignation, to Doc’s own announcement at Woodland Hills Church, it seems that his resignation from Bethel was voluntary and his relationship to Bethel remains amicable.
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BJS
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| Posted 4/18/2002 2:31 AM (GMT -6) | | Has Doc publicized his reasons for leaving?
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gregw
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| Posted 4/18/2002 3:14 AM (GMT -6) | | Perhaps Doc will reply to this. As a Bethelite, I have seen the reason identified as Greg wanting to concentrate on writing, speaking, pastoring and leading his national and international ministry.
Other personal conversations (not with Greg) have led me to believe that his theological views were not the reason for his resigning.
Losing Greg will be a great loss for Bethel.
Greg
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Tiggers
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| Posted 4/18/2002 7:24 AM (GMT -6) | | WOW,
I guess there are positives and negatives to his resignation; however, Greg's gotta go where God is calling him and I wish you/him all the blessings in the world. On a side note, I'm sure the deterministic Edrgen fellowship is rejoicing in what they might consider a sweet victory over that "Openness" virus leaving Bethel College regardless of his reasons  ! Hmmm...maybe they believe they even contributed enough pressure for his decision to resign...hmmm, maybe their prayers affected the circumstances in such a way that...hmmmmmm.......  LOL!!!!
Warmly in Christ,
Tiggers
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geej
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| Posted 4/18/2002 7:36 AM (GMT -6) | | All I have to say is that it sucks to be Bethel.
In the past several years they've lost some of the best. Roger Olson (to a seminary), Herzog (to retirement) and now Greg.
Too bad.
Geej
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 4/18/2002 8:21 AM (GMT -6) | | Well, I certainly appreciate the accolades. It was a very hard decision, because I genuinely enjoy teaching at Bethel. But I REALLY sensed God telling me it was time to leave. One of the ways I discerned this was that I was growing increasingly frustrated at saying "NO" to many things I wanted to say "YES" to -- especially writing projects -- simply because I had no time. I want to do more with Chrsitus Victor Ministries (lectures, debates etc.), more writing projects, and be more focused on Woodland Hills Church. I also just need more time for ME.
It feels very very good, but was difficult to make. The Edgren crowd had nothing to do with my leaving: indeed, if anything, their on-going polemics was one of the reasons I considered STAYING, despite the pull out.
Thanks for your kind words
Greg
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alwyn
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| Posted 4/21/2002 7:15 PM (GMT -6) | | Dear Doc,
I wish you all the best on your new career/route. So I reckon you will be doing 'freelance'(?) writing/lecturing?
May I also ask, if it's not too P&C, how your r'ship is with the Edgen group? Are you on speaking terms with John Piper?
I'm sure many of us OV-ists have gone through more or less (probably less) of such 'pressure' before...it'd be great to hear how you dealt with it...
Blessings,
Al
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GregBoyd
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| Posted 4/21/2002 8:29 PM (GMT -6) | | Dearest alwyn, thanks for the well wishing.
As to fellowship with Edgren folk, can't say that I ever talk with any of them. When I run into them here or there, they are cordial (with just one or two exceptions). From my end, I feel clear toward them. John Piper and I don't dialogue, but, so far as I know, not because there's any ill will. We just orbit different planets. I've never sensed any animosity from him. And I respect him, especially in light of an apology he made publically several years ago for making several unguarded statements about me.
Some of his followers are not so gracious. But then again, I'm not sure Open Theists are always winning awards for graciousness.
As for presurre -- there is none. I honestly never felt presurre, even when my job at Bethel looked like it was up in the air.
I trust in the sovereignty of God
Blessings
Doc
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