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might-be-don
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| Posted 4/22/2002 5:20 AM (GMT -6) |   | Here's one you can pray for, or against, whichever way you feel inclined...
My family and I are considering a move to the St. Paul area. Nothing drastic motivating it other than a desire to change our current circumstances ( not because we have to, but because we want to ) . In times past a decision of this nature was driven by need, rather than desire, and usually the answer was clear. Could it be possibile it's God's will do just do something I want to do?
Why St.Paul ? I have friends there ( well, maybe one ) . There is a church that sounds interesting in that area ( not sure what the name will be when I show up ) .
Why not St.Paul ? There are a million reasons why I should stay where I'm at.
peace and love, don
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Electra
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| Posted 4/22/2002 8:08 AM (GMT -6) | | In the interest of full disclosure, you should know that exactly one week ago, it was 91 degrees in St. Paul  . Yesterday the low was in the 20s , and today there is snow on the ground . It’s supposed to rain tomorrow. Beyond that…who knows (God?)  With that caveat, blessings on you and your wife as you make this decision. Come visit and see what you think.  Blessings, Electra
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Semeia
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| Posted 4/22/2002 9:58 AM (GMT -6) | | Don said:
Why St.Paul ? I have friends there ( well, maybe one ).
Semeia:
What are you talking about? You have a bunch of friends. Ok, we're all a bit freakish, spending so much time on the internet and all, but you'd get used to it...
And while it is in fact true that it snowed yesterday, it was a beautiful, surreal, dreamy April snow that we woke up to, rubbing our eyes and wondering if summer had been forgotten. At first the big fat flakes melted into the already green ground, but after a while the grass and trees and deck furniture that we had just hauled up from the basement were coated in frost, and the snow kept falling and falling all day in the prettiest way, the kind of snow that builds up on every branch and twig and blade until everything leans heavy with the beauty of it. And since it’s April and not November there’s no despair; we all know it’s an afterthought, and we can experience the pleasure of it without fear of winter yet to come.
What could be better than an April snow? That should be a sign in favor of the move!
Don said:
Could it be possible it's God's will to just do something I want to do?
Semeia:
Yes of course. God loves when we grow and explore and take a new path. There is often no one right answer, just an answer we make the best of with God’s help.
How wonderful that you might move to Minnesota! (But, along the lines of Electra’s post: you might have less buyer’s remorse if you arrived in the summer…)
Thanks,
Semeia
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Springs
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| Posted 4/22/2002 1:56 PM (GMT -6) | | Don: Here's one you can pray for, or against, whichever way you feel inclined...
Springs: In other words...pray God's will?
I was gonna do that,... so I started in with, "Lord, I wonder where he lives.? If it's anywhere south of here, you know I can't pray for that on account of the weather.  But, I tell ya, Lord, I sure would like to meet him. What Lord?"
-I'm praying blessings on you and yours. I hope that the peace, that will settle on your heart, when you and the Lord have reached a decision, will come sooner rather than later.
Springs
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selah
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| Posted 4/23/2002 1:33 AM (GMT -6) | | Only Semeia could make "we got dumped on" sound so nice and blessed 
quote:
it was a beautiful, surreal, dreamy April snow that we woke up to, rubbing our eyes and wondering if summer had been forgotten. At first the big fat flakes melted into the already green ground, but after a while the grass and trees and deck furniture that we had just hauled up from the basement were coated in frost, and the snow kept falling and falling all day in the prettiest way, the kind of snow that builds up on every branch and twig and blade until everything leans heavy with the beauty of it.
please, Please, PLEASE help us reframe next winter!
selah
I only wish I could write with both hands, so as not to forget one thing while I am saying another. (Saint Teresa of Avila)
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might-be-don
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| Posted 4/23/2002 2:20 AM (GMT -6) | | Actually I'm from one of the Doc's old stomping grounds, eastern PA, not far from Trenton, NJ .
I have the feeling that making the decision is going to be the easy part, it's the being at rest while the details are worked out that will be a challenge. If I stay here I have things in my life that need to be worked out, and if I go I have details in my life that need to be worked out. I think Seymour would put it this way, "Damned if I do, damned if I don't" .
peace and love, don
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Seymour
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| Posted 4/23/2002 3:22 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
I have the feeling that making the decision is going to be the easy part, it's the being at rest while the details are worked out that will be a challenge. If I stay here I have things in my life that need to be worked out, and if I go I have details in my life that need to be worked out. I think Seymour would put it this way, "Damned if I do, damned if I don't" .
well in that case i'd recommend being damned WITH a change in sceanery. that's the one nice thing about going to hell, at least it will swich things up for a while.
Minnesota might be hell? who knows. but i'm told that Iowa is heaven.
Some folks dance cool, all angels and swaying hips, Sensual as all get out and in. Me, I'm a hick, and I dance like one, I just kinda jump around and grin.
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might-be-don
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| Posted 4/23/2002 3:25 AM (GMT -6) | | Seymour,
Concerning your latest sig, you been watching the Doc dance? The hick describes him perfectly.
peace and love, don
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churchmouse522
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| Posted 4/23/2002 5:27 AM (GMT -6) | | I think everyone should move here. We'll have a big party and jump around and grin.
Mouse
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Electra
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| Posted 4/23/2002 5:54 AM (GMT -6) | | quote:
And while it is in fact true that it snowed yesterday, it was a beautiful, surreal, dreamy April snow that we woke up to, rubbing our eyes and wondering if summer had been forgotten. At first the big fat flakes melted into the already green ground, but after a while the grass and trees and deck furniture that we had just hauled up from the basement were coated in frost, and the snow kept falling and falling all day in the prettiest way, the kind of snow that builds up on every branch and twig and blade until everything leans heavy with the beauty of it. And since it’s April and not November there’s no despair; we all know it’s an afterthought, and we can experience the pleasure of it without fear of winter yet to come.
Waiter, I’ll have what she’s having… You are right, the snow was gorgeous. Thanks for helping me admit it.
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Seymour
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| Posted 4/23/2002 3:35 PM (GMT -6) | | quote:
Waiter, I’ll have what she’s having…
Okay so here is a funny story. one day i was at Wheaton college a couple years ago and i sat in on their chapel so that a friend of mine wouldn't have to go (they have assinged chapel's at Wheaton but they only take attendance by counting empty chairs, so if someone's in your assinged chair whether its you or someone else it's counted. the result is that everyone goes to chapel and brings their homework with and no one really listes to the speaker)
but this speaker got our attention. he was using that same scene from "When Harry Met Sally" to describe evanglizim. he told us that when our friends see how much joy and how much happiness we have their going to want to order what we're having. Now i think this is just one more ploy by fundegelicals to get us to fake like we are joyous and happy whether its true or not. but he really inspired all of my Wheaton friends so we stared OFJ minestrys. Thats Orgasims For Jesus minestries. because you must remember that Sally was faking and orgaisim, and since Christianity is just a matter of seeing who can out fake eachother and then rewarding yourself with pieous praise we figured we'd bring Sallies evangilizm technics to the streets. So on the weekend we went down to Chicago and stood at street corners faking orgaisms and waited for the people to start converting to Jesus Christ. mostly they just looked at us like we were in pain or something. so much for the evalilistic technics of "When Harry Met Sally"
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Electra
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| Posted 4/23/2002 5:31 PM (GMT -6) | | Ha ha. Good one Seymour.
Just for the sake of clarification, I have not seen the movie When Harry Met Sally (I’m not a romantic comedy fan) and I didn’t realize that phrase had that connotation. 
I experienced the same surreal snow, but it was so strange that I resented it instead of admiting how beautiful it was. Semeia’s courage (not fakeness) inspired me.
So anyway, Don, be brave and you will find beauty here (or wherever), too.
Electra
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Tom
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| Posted 4/23/2002 7:13 PM (GMT -6) | | Electra-
I was snooping around member profiles and saw yours, for the FIRST time. Boy do I feel stupid. 
Duuuuuuuh
Tom
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Semeia
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| Posted 4/23/2002 7:31 PM (GMT -6) | | Selah said:
please, Please, PLEASE help us reframe next winter!
Semeia:
I'm only good for that first snow. Then it's a fire in the fireplace, a stack of books, a handful of pharmaceuticals, and a whole lot of denial! Snow? Do you see snow?
Seymour said:
So on the weekend we went down to Chicago and stood at street corners faking orgasms and waited for the people to start converting to Jesus Christ. mostly they just looked at us like we were in pain or something.
Semeia:
Don, not to worry you or anything, but this is actually one of the symptoms of Cold Climate Disorder. But you get used to it after a while.
Electra said:
Waiter, I’ll have what she’s having… You are right, the snow was gorgeous. Thanks for helping me admit it.
And:
Just for the sake of clarification, I have not seen the movie When Harry Met Sally (I’m not a romantic comedy fan) and I didn’t realize that phrase had that connotation.
Semeia:
I prefer to think that you did know, because that was hilarious!
Electra:
I experienced the same surreal snow, but it was so strange that I resented it instead of admiting how beautiful it was. Semeia’s courage (not fakeness) inspired me.
Semeia:
Thank you. I should probably confess that I enjoyed it so much because I didn't have to drive anywhere in it. Although I did nearly fall out of the upstairs window when I took the screen off and leaned out to take a few photographs. After that I decided I could probably find a postcard with a similar scene from a previous winter, which only goes to prove that we (or at least me) are all fake pharisees and going to hell. Seymour, I might come around to your view yet...
Don, I hope we're not scaring you off or anything. I mean, it's nothing that years of therapy can't fix.
And it was in the upper sixties today...
Thanks,
Semeia
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Electra
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| Posted 4/24/2002 9:04 AM (GMT -6) | | The Ecstacy of St. Theresa
Real? Fake? Or victim of Cold Climate Syndrome?
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selah
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| Posted 4/24/2002 9:56 AM (GMT -6) | | Electra,
Absolutely REAL~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~
selah
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Tom
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| Posted 4/24/2002 10:56 AM (GMT -6) | | I believe the sculptor was Bernini. Excellent!
Tom
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