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Similitude
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   Posted 12/29/2005 10:17 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Question for anyone who might be read up on amnesia:
 
Have any of you read of a case or cases of amnesia where the victim pretty much forgets everything but still exhibits a character solidified towards good or evil, independent of any functional associations to the past? 


 

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   Posted 12/29/2005 10:55 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
jefscott said...
Have any of you read of a case or cases of amnesia where the victim pretty much forgets everything but still exhibits a character solidified towards good or evil, independent of any functional associations to the past? 

I’ve heard of such things in court cases, but it was later written off as denial.  hmmm


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   Posted 12/30/2005 10:02 AM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

None of the following claims are supported by science:

  • There is only one memory system, therefore traumatic memories are not handled differently by the brain than ordinary memories.
  • Repressed memory does not exist.
  • Repressed memories are never accurate.
  • Implanting false memories of horrific events that never occurred is easy and frequently done by therapists.
  • Hypnosis, guided imagery and visualization are unduly suggestive techniques that always contaminate memory.
  • Recanting of childhood sexual abuse proves that the abuse never happened.
  • Repressed memories are always true.
  • If you think you were abused, you were.
 
What's interesting is those who argue that repressed memories are always true use the analogy of a fly caught in amber, they are solidified and impervious to later contamination by influence or suggestion.



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   Posted 1/3/2006 3:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Jeff, why did you bring up the topic of amnesia, are you by any chance tying it in with your reincarnation theory?  



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   Posted 1/3/2006 7:04 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Mark:  Jeff, why did you bring up the topic of amnesia, are you by any chance tying it in with your reincarnation theory?
 
Jeff:  No, I was actually trying to see if there was circumstantial evidence that what's in a person's heart is unaffected by amnesia.  I was hoping amnesia would be a kind of empirical case study for that hypothesis.
 
The reason I brought up reincarnation is because I once read an account of an Indian view of reincarnation that had elements similar to universalism.  In that view, we were all once in harmony with God and FELL from that harmony into a material world where we are reincarnated until we get back to God.  But interestingly, it posited other planets where folks are reincarnated to pay for the evil deeds. 
 
In other words, in that view, there is works-justice AND a virtual certainty you will eventually be reinstated into a harmonious relationship with God.  But it doesn't posit the idea that death is the WAGES of sin.  Life in a material world is the wages of our fall. 
 
And of course, epistemic distance works differently.  I think the extremity of the epistemic distance in THAT view renders it less rational.  If I ever get back to reading more about it, I'll pay more attention to it's elements for purposes of comparison.


 

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   Posted 1/3/2006 9:30 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
jefscott said...
Have any of you read of a case or cases of amnesia where the victim pretty much forgets everything but still exhibits a character solidified towards good or evil, independent of any functional associations to the past? 
From what I remember from my classes (I sold back all the books because Psychology is an ever-changing field), there are different types of amnesia, but I don't think there are any cases where one's pre-trauma memories were FULLY erased or lost.  There's always been recollection to some degree or only a period of their life where memories were affected/lost.  If you want to access a database of scholarly journals, let me know.  I still have access to my university library and can send a couple. 
 
Here's the title of one: Evaluation of Patients with Transient Global Amnesia ,  By: Sadovsky, Richard, American Family Physician, 0002838X, 05/01/98, Vol. 57, Issue 9
 
Might be interesting and informative... or might not be.


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   Posted 1/3/2006 10:38 PM (GMT -6)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thanks, VFG! I had seen a special years ago about a girl that lost her memory. She had all her concepts in tact but couldn't remember details. She didn't know her parents, friends, or anyone. She didn't like her clothes and walked different after she lost her memory. The power of association must be profound.


 

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