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Corey
Five with a Four-wing

Date Joined Feb 2003
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Posted 6/13/2006 8:24 PM (GMT -6)

I'm sure most of you know of Peter Kreeft, a professor of philosophy at Boston College and an outspoken theist. He's Catholic, but I didn't know he was raised in the Reformed tradition. I found his account of his journey interesting at a number of levels. http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0148.html

PotOnWheel
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Date Joined Jul 2001
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Posted 6/14/2006 12:15 PM (GMT -6)

Great article, Corey.

I like this particularly:

"Catholicism taught that we are saved by faith, by grace, by Christ, however few Catholics understood this. And Protestants taught that true faith necessarily produces good works. The fundamental issue of the Reformation is an argument between the roots and the blossoms on the same flower."

(o)

Violin for God
Luke, I am your father. --Nooooooooo!!!!!

Date Joined Dec 2004
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Posted 6/17/2006 1:56 PM (GMT -6)

This was also interesting:

"I was impressed by the argument that "the Church wrote the Bible:" Christianity was preached by the Church before the New Testament was written-that is simply a historical fact. It is also a fact that the apostles wrote the New Testament and the Church canonized it, deciding which books were divinely inspired. I knew, from logic and common sense, that a cause can never be less than its effect. You can't give what you don't have. If the Church has no divine inspiration and no infallibility, no divine authority, then neither can the New Testament. Protestantism logically entails Modernism."

Hmmm... the questions I have are: was the "Church" inspired or just the writers? And is inspiration momentary or long-term? Not saying I'm completely disregarding what Kreeft wrote here, because it certainly does give me food for thought, but I'd probably change the second-to-last statement to "If the Church had... then neither did the New Testament." This article certainly sheds more light onto the area of Catholicism (coming from one who grew up in the Lutheran church... and our church did a lot of activities with the Catholic church down the road... believe it or not!)

[As Bill and Ted approach Socrates]:

Bill: "Yo Ted, say something profound, dude."

Ted: "Oh, yeah. Right. All we are...is dust in the wind dude."

Bill: ..."Dust".... "Wind" ... "Duuuude".

Socrates: (gasping in awe) "Like sands through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives."

Post Edited (Violin for God) : 6/17/2006 2:05:38 PM (GMT-5)

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