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Violin for God
Luke, I am your father. --Nooooooooo!!!!!

Date Joined Dec 2004
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Posted 6/7/2006 3:25 AM (GMT -6)

I just got the link to this debate from Bill Craig and apparently Bart Ehrman isn't permitting publication of it, so this can only be passed around by "word of internet". This took place around April or so. It's about the historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus.

http://www.holycross.edu/departments/crec/website/resurrection-debate-transcript.pdf

[As Bill and Ted approach Socrates]:

Bill: "Yo Ted, say something profound, dude."

Ted: "Oh, yeah. Right. All we are...is dust in the wind dude."

Bill: ..."Dust".... "Wind" ... "Duuuude".

Socrates: (gasping in awe) "Like sands through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives."

Post Edited (Violin for God) : 6/7/2006 3:36:53 AM (GMT-5)

Similitude
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Posted 6/17/2006 9:15 PM (GMT -6)

Thanks, VFG. After reading some of it, I can see why Bart doesn't want it published. I understand his insistence that historical method has to be inclusive in the academic world. But I don't understand why he can't see that a person has to consider evidence in light of his/her whole world-view, unconstrained by the metaphysics of others.

Tom
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Posted 6/18/2006 9:02 AM (GMT -6)

Yeah, read it. Cool. It's clear that for Ehrman "methodological naturalism" is the only way to do valid history.

Tom

Similitude
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Posted 7/9/2006 8:59 AM (GMT -6)

In this debate, Ehrman says at one point that there's no evidence that the apostles died for their faith. Craig had used the fact that apostles died and were willing to die for their faith as evidence that they really believed what they were preaching.This makes me wonder if Ehrman thinks the accounts of persecution in the book of Acts are pretty much fabrications. Does anyone know what the consensus scholarly opinion on that is?

Post Edited (jefscott) : 7/9/2006 9:03:27 AM (GMT-5)

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