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One Love
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| Posted 8/8/2006 8:25 PM (GMT -6) |   | Selah,
Have you read Chap. 9 yet? What did you think?
The newest mantra:
God graciously FINDS us meaningful when God doesn't need to do it and we, in ourselves, can't do it.
Live in Christ's love, the Spirit's empowerment, and the Father's grace.
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selah
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| Posted 8/8/2006 8:56 PM (GMT -6) | | | Hi Mephi,
I think Greg makes a vital distinction in chapter nine. Jesus teaches that we should cultivate a lifestyle/a way of being that is refined (and made holy) day by day in relationship with Him. One that is in tune with the Spirit. Along with that, Jesus wants to transform us from people who "react" to things (with worldly intuitions) to people who "respond" with wisdom from a Kingdom that's not of this world. He wants us in touch with His wisdom. It's just better to live this way! It's better for our "enemy" and it's better for US...because God knows more than we do He can instruct us better than we instruct ourselves...
What's the problem...all that scripture? ;)
T
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One Love
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| Posted 8/8/2006 9:34 PM (GMT -6) | | Selah:
I think Greg makes a vital distinction in chapter nine. Jesus teaches that we should cultivate a lifestyle/a way of being that is refined (and made holy) day by day in relationship with Him. One that is in tune with the Spirit. Along with that, Jesus wants to transform us from people who "react" to things (with worldly intuitions) to people who "respond" with wisdom from a Kingdom that's not of this world. He wants us in touch with His wisdom. It's just better to live this way! It's better for our "enemy" and it's better for US...because God knows more than we do He can instruct us better than we instruct ourselves...
Um...did you catch Doc's implied belief that Kingdom activity in our fallen world should be INHERENTLY non-violent...because of what he believes Jesus would do?
The newest mantra:
God graciously FINDS us meaningful when God doesn't need to do it and we, in ourselves, can't do it.
Live in Christ's love, the Spirit's empowerment, and the Father's grace.
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selah
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| Posted 8/9/2006 10:50 AM (GMT -6) | |
selah said...
sparknheart said...
...after listing to this interview, I hear Greg say that Jesus never would fall into the trap of giving his political opinion.
selah: Is that exactly what he said?
Nineteen minutes into the interview, Greg responds to the first caller (Jan) about Jesus not being a rightwing Republican. Everyone can listen to Greg’s response for themselves.
selah: As far as I know Greg has always believed that giving your political opinion is fine...even good. It's when we give our political opinions about specific issues and call it God's opinion that there's a problem. The problem is in mixing the two kingdoms.
mark: So why does Rev. Boyd characterize The Son of Man as a pacifist before he gives his own political opinion, is this not mixing the two kingdoms? How can a man of God even be anything but apolitical without mixing the two kingdoms? Greg kept bringing up the term that we should be the “salt of the earth”, I ask, how can we be both the salt and the “beacon of light” without, to some extent, mixing the two kingdoms?
Let me clarify, I do agree that it’s ludicrous to use biblical arguments to pagans while trying to justifying government policy.
selah: Is that exactly what he said? And, even if it was what he said, Greg would own it as HIS opinion.
Yes of course Greg is privileged to give his own opinion; my point has been he uses Scripture to rebuke the opinions of the conservative right (those that what to cite Biblical moral laws), then he cherry picks scripture to support his own opinion, and this is what I call hypocrisy. Jesus was not a self proclaimed pacifist so please lets quit attempting to use Scripture to support political opinions that advocate pacifism, or at least lets make it an equal playing field.
selah: actually WWJD? Do you think people divided over his teachings???
I agree that Jesus’ teaching was very divisive when it came to children of the Devil and children of God. Now you wouldn’t say the thousand people that left WHC was of the Devil … would ya?
I find it odd to be disagreeing with you (and Doc) and agreeing with Meph, it’s usually the other way around. Blessings, Mark
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